Wurider05 Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 I know it's early but after listening to Coach talk about Bembry and to see how he played............is it possible that he can make Bazemore expendable? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 I think he's more impactful than Bazemore. His game is more versatile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted October 2, 2018 Moderators Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 He has a way to go to get close to Baze based on how they played last season but it is now or never time for Bembry so I really hope he shows out big this season. The ceiling I thought he had when we drafted him would have been high enough to project him to overtake Baze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted October 2, 2018 Premium Member Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 If he can display a level of consistent that he had in the 1st preseason game and stay off the training table, i think he'll be Baze's primary back up until Baze is traded . Then he'll get the starting gig after the deadline with Huerter backing him up. Those are my prognostications. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benhillboy Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 I think they compliment each other well on the floor together. Bems is a plus playmaker, Baze is astute off the ball. Both plus defenders. Baze been on the block but Shlclenk ain’t attaching that 1st Rounder everyone wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted October 3, 2018 Premium Member Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 9 hours ago, benhillboy said: I think they compliment each other well on the floor together. Bems is a plus playmaker, Baze is astute off the ball. Both plus defenders. Baze been on the block but Shlclenk ain’t attaching that 1st Rounder everyone wants. Baze has increased his value so there is no attaching a pick to move him. Unless in Schlenk's bizzaro world he's just really looking to dump his salary for nothing - that would be such a misuse of an asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted October 3, 2018 Premium Member Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said: Unless in Schlenk's bizzaro world he's just really looking to dump his salary for nothing - that would be such a misuse of an asset. Schlenk is yet to attach a 1st round pick to trade anyone In fact has only done the opposite so I don't know why it is even mentioned as a possibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted October 3, 2018 Moderators Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 I like Bembry but we have to remember that he hasn't proven he can shoot. If he starts getting minutes, defenders will know to cut off his drive. Baze can shoot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RedDawg#8 Posted October 3, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 hour ago, macdaddy said: I like Bembry but we have to remember that he hasn't proven he can shoot. If he starts getting minutes, defenders will know to cut off his drive. Baze can shoot. Bembry (in limited minutes obviously) shot .367% from three last year. Which is better than every Baze season as a Hawk except one. Baze shot .394 last year, a difference of .027%. I say all that to say, Baze isn’t THAT much better of a shooter that he needed to be included as a side jab. The beautiful thing about Bembry that makes him more unique than Baze, is he is very savvy, so even if his jumper isn’t falling, and opponents are cutting off his drives, he still knows how to be impactful. On Monday a lot of his points in the paint came not just by driving with the basketball, but by moving without the ball to make himself open near the rim (BBall IQ), some in transition some in half court. He does more than just wait at the 3 point line for the ball to find him like many players these days. He creates opportunities for himself when no one is looking. He is usually in position for a dump off or an offensive rebound, but rarely is he just a spectator out there. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted October 3, 2018 Moderators Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said: Bembry (in limited minutes obviously) shot .367% from three last year. Which is better than every Baze season as a Hawk except one. Baze shot .394 last year, a difference of .027%. I say all that to say, Baze isn’t THAT much better of a shooter that he needed to be included as a side jab. The beautiful thing about Bembry that makes him more unique than Baze, is he is very savvy, so even if his jumper isn’t falling, and opponents are cutting off his drives, he still knows how to be impactful. On Monday a lot of his points in the paint came not just by driving with the basketball, but by moving without the ball to make himself open near the rim (BBall IQ), some in transition some in half court. He does more than just wait at the 3 point line for the ball to find him like many players these days. He creates opportunities for himself when no one is looking. He is usually in position for a dump off or an offensive rebound, but rarely is he just a spectator out there. Baze is a career 36% 3 point shooter over 6 seasons. Bembry made 11-30 attempts last season for a 36% mark. So I'm not seeing where Bembry has shown he can shoot at all. It's great if he can but making 11 3s, when up to that point you were known as a poor shooter, doesn't mean much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFuzz Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 Bembry needs to stay healthy so he can work on his finishing. I'd like to see him at backup point 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg#8 Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 3 hours ago, macdaddy said: Baze is a career 36% 3 point shooter over 6 seasons. Bembry made 11-30 attempts last season for a 36% mark. So I'm not seeing where Bembry has shown he can shoot at all. It's great if he can but making 11 3s, when up to that point you were known as a poor shooter, doesn't mean much. Which is why I said small sample size, but I also think it’s a testament to playing within himself that he won’t force up bad shots either. Baze has missed enough wide open shots that I’m not going to prop him up as a knockdown shooter. He is a streak shooter that was much more consistent last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg#8 Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 3 hours ago, macdaddy said: Baze is a career 36% 3 point shooter over 6 seasons. Bembry made 11-30 attempts last season for a 36% mark. So I'm not seeing where Bembry has shown he can shoot at all. It's great if he can but making 11 3s, when up to that point you were known as a poor shooter, doesn't mean much. I should also clarify that I’m not propping up Bembry as a knockdown shooter either, just that his game is more balanced and his shoot selection is savvy enough that his inconsistent shooting won’t hurt him to the same effect as it would many other players who don’t have his same ability to play off the ball, rebound and distribute for his teammates 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PSSSHHHRRR87 Posted October 3, 2018 Moderators Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 We are a rebuilding franchise. Baze is expendable regardless of Bembry's performance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted October 3, 2018 Moderators Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 I like what Bembry brings. I just don't think he'll find the floor if he can't knock down shots. But maybe that's Bud ball and not Pierce ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted October 3, 2018 Moderators Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 hour ago, macdaddy said: I like what Bembry brings. I just don't think he'll find the floor if he can't knock down shots. But maybe that's Bud ball and not Pierce ball. It is about this era as well. It becomes harder and harder to play guys who can't knock down a jumper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastDon Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 4:57 PM, Wurider05 said: I know it's early but after listening to Coach talk about Bembry and to see how he played............is it possible that he can make Bazemore expendable? ? Smh why we cant build a team every time guys develop yall wanna trade the other valuable talent off?! How bout keep both! Yall did the same shit wit Teague and Schröder! Depth is important people!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5 Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 Bembry's shooting isn't as much of an issue if we have 4 other guys out there that can knock down shots. He just needs to stay healthy and play under control. But he did hit a very confident 3 in the first preseason game which was nice to see. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted October 3, 2018 Premium Member Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 8 hours ago, Peoriabird said: Schlenk is yet to attach a 1st round pick to trade anyone In fact has only done the opposite so I don't know why it is even mentioned as a possibility Let's take a walk down draft day lane. The first reported trade with Dallas was Bazemore and #3 for Matthews and #5. That's it, no pick to us. This means to me that Schlenk was/is willing to dump the last year of Baze's contract. High five to Dallas for saying no to that stupid trade, so we at least got the Dallas 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted October 3, 2018 Premium Member Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 I get that Bembry shooting the 3 is important, but whaf he can bring besides just shooting the 3 i think will be important - the ability to get to the basket easily off the dribble and shoot or make a play, his ability to run the offense and his defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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