Thomas Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Keep 8, 10, 17 and 35 then trade the other guys in the forties down the road for picks or whatever in two or three years. Saying keep the 35 for a backup pg. Competition at point is always good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted June 6, 2019 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: Y'all said that last year and it didn't happen... He actually moved down and kept the 3 1st round picks. I'm not saying they shoul. I'm saying if that's the move, that's my preference so we keep #8 and move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted June 6, 2019 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Just now, JayBirdHawk said: I'm not saying they shoul. I'm saying if that's the move, that's my preference so we keep #8 and move up. move up for who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Peoriabird said: We are not drafting RJ Barrett!@#$% where is @NBASupes Hawks have interest in Barrett but more interesting in moving down to #5 and getting an unprotected 1st 2020 from Cleveland who is willing for Barrett. The issue is, NY wants 8/10 and Kevin with Kevin as the centerpiece. That's a no go for the Hawks. The Hawks haven't shown interest to move up from #8 outside of moving up to #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 If and when we get #21, don't be surprised if we package it to move to 9/12 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 Center could be a target, this is just my take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekiEcko Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, NBASupes said: If and when we get #21, don't be surprised if we package it to move to 9/12 range. So you saying that OKC pick is getting moved to us as well or something like a rumor. I never seem any team with four first rounders like ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, NBASupes said: Center could be a target, this is just my take. Goga! Goga!! Goga!!! Goga!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 Here's what I'm seeing happen. Don't kill me. All reports are that they liked Bruno when he worked out and want to hold on to 8 to spend on Bruno. The move for 17 is to package with 10 + other things to move up to 3. If New York resigns Deandre Jordan, they'll need about 3 players to go with him and have about 31 million to spend. They would prefer 2 first rounders to keep salaries lighter and then add 2 players. If they could acquire a good, cheap, young player in trade + picks they'll move 3. They like both Bembry and Spellman and that could get it done. They also would like to clear Frank Ntilikina off the books. A proposed draft deal is Bembry +10 +17 for Ntilikina +3. It's about clearing a few million in salary and filling a roster spot to clear up extra salary to resign Deandre Jordan and add lower star vet to play with him. then with 3 + 8 Hawks would take RJ and Bruno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 22 minutes ago, NekiEcko said: So you saying that OKC pick is getting moved to us as well or something like a rumor. I never seem any team with four first rounders like ever. I think Boston came close twice. In fact, they almost had four this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, NekiEcko said: So you saying that OKC pick is getting moved to us as well or something like a rumor. I never seem any team with four first rounders like ever. I wouldn't call it a rumor since it's from my insider. Most of what's being talked about around the league. We are the only team with cap flexibility and a lot of picks. This is the one year we could do this. The others who could are fighting for superstars and stars in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 53 minutes ago, thecampster said: Here's what I'm seeing happen. Don't kill me. All reports are that they liked Bruno when he worked out and want to hold on to 8 to spend on Bruno. The move for 17 is to package with 10 + other things to move up to 3. If New York resigns Deandre Jordan, they'll need about 3 players to go with him and have about 31 million to spend. They would prefer 2 first rounders to keep salaries lighter and then add 2 players. If they could acquire a good, cheap, young player in trade + picks they'll move 3. They like both Bembry and Spellman and that could get it done. They also would like to clear Frank Ntilikina off the books. A proposed draft deal is Bembry +10 +17 for Ntilikina +3. It's about clearing a few million in salary and filling a roster spot to clear up extra salary to resign Deandre Jordan and add lower star vet to play with him. then with 3 + 8 Hawks would take RJ and Bruno Bruno at 8? That’s reaching a bit ain’t it?....I mean Bruno isn’t even in anyone’s top 14! Or am I wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted June 7, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 55 minutes ago, thecampster said: Here's what I'm seeing happen. Don't kill me. All reports are that they liked Bruno when he worked out and want to hold on to 8 to spend on Bruno. The move for 17 is to package with 10 + other things to move up to 3. If New York resigns Deandre Jordan, they'll need about 3 players to go with him and have about 31 million to spend. They would prefer 2 first rounders to keep salaries lighter and then add 2 players. If they could acquire a good, cheap, young player in trade + picks they'll move 3. They like both Bembry and Spellman and that could get it done. They also would like to clear Frank Ntilikina off the books. A proposed draft deal is Bembry +10 +17 for Ntilikina +3. It's about clearing a few million in salary and filling a roster spot to clear up extra salary to resign Deandre Jordan and add lower star vet to play with him. then with 3 + 8 Hawks would take RJ and Bruno What are you drinking because I want some ... there is no way NY doesn’t slam the phone down on that offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted June 7, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 hour ago, NBASupes said: Hawks have interest in Barrett but more interesting in moving down to #5 and getting an unprotected 1st 2020 from Cleveland who is willing for Barrett. The issue is, NY wants 8/10 and Kevin with Kevin as the centerpiece. That's a no go for the Hawks. The Hawks haven't shown interest to move up from #8 outside of moving up to #3. I would consider 8/10 for 5 a fail. The difference between Culver/Cam/Hunter is not enough to give up another lottery pick as one of them should be there at 8. I would do 8/17 or 10/17+ 2nds for 5 but not 8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 minute ago, capstone21 said: What are you drinking because I want some ... there is no way NY doesn’t slam the phone down on that offer I wouldn’t judge the Knick’s and Dolan as having smarts soooo....just sayin . Not the smartest organization though a big market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted June 7, 2019 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, capstone21 said: I would consider 8/10 for 5 a fail. The difference between Culver/Cam/Hunter is not enough to give up another lottery pick as one of them should be there at 8. I would do 8/17 or 10/17+ 2nds for 5 but not 8/10 Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 Frank is a real liability right now and very unpopular in NY. He makes 3 million more a year than Bembry and they need all the cash they can get to attract free agents right now. Bembry had a very good second half last year and really up'd his value. The total cost of 10/17 is 700k less than 3 alone. Sounds crazy I know but when you consider a 2nd roster spot to go with 3 would cost them another million...the total cap savings of the deal saves NY about $4.7 million that goes toward a free agent. People really undervalue the value of cap space....16 million in cap space just got us 2 first round draft picks. Think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, capstone21 said: I would consider 8/10 for 5 a fail. The difference between Culver/Cam/Hunter is not enough to give up another lottery pick as one of them should be there at 8. I would do 8/17 or 10/17+ 2nds for 5 but not 8/10 This. The value is at 1-3 in terms of trade. 4-10 is all fluid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 @thecampster, NY already turned down 8 and 10 and countered they wanted Kevin, 8 and 10. We don't have a shot to get R.J. unless it's massive overpay. Just FYI, Hawks got five wings they really really like and think they can end up with a shot at 2-3 of them. They aren't moving up unless it's to 3 which was already declined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 The value of taking back an unpopular NYer. And they didn't reject it...they just are holding it till closer to draft night to see what other offers come in. They need players not 1 player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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