Official 2019 Draft thread

[Spud2nique]

19 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

He could bust, but I wouldn't bet on it. He has too many tools and he has a lot of potential. You are talking about a range of Gerald Wallace to KL. That was ths same curve for KL. I wouldn't count him out.

He is a safer prospect than Reddish for most teams and it's not even close.

Disagree and I’ll just leave it at that. Cam is a basketball player by nature and natural movements. Nas movements look very forced and artificial to me.

 

We agreed on Bagley, Trae and others. This is the first one I don’t see eye to eye with you. It happens. Like I said, if we draft him I hope you are right and I would gladly eat crow.

[NBASupes]

Just now, Spud2nique said:

Disagree and I’ll just leave it at that. Cam is a basketball player by nature and natural movements. Nas movements look very forced and artificial to me.

 

We agreed on Bagley, Trae and others. This is the first one I don’t see eye to eye with you. It happens. Like I said, if we draft him I hope you are right and I would gladly eat crow.

It happens, hell me and KB disagree on everything and we agreed on Trae and Kevin. 

[Spud2nique]

3 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

It happens, hell me and KB disagree on everything and we agreed on Trae and Kevin. 

is he back? Oh man. I feel like he’s coming back before the draft. Like a few days and just jump into the mix like nothing happened with his 18 win prediction. 

[NBASupes]

11 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

is he back? Oh man. I feel like he’s coming back before the draft. Like a few days and just jump into the mix like nothing happened with his 18 win prediction. 

I was looking at some of old content. That was the only thing we agreed on was actually Trae. I didn't even watch one Maryland game in 17-2018. Then again, it was you who I agreed with the most. 

[thecampster]

51 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

you need a hug this morning? What’s up with wanting to nail everyone?

Mondays off now...time to troll.

[NBASupes]

No, KB is mia

[JTB]

38 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

No, KB is mia

Probably  because KB doesn’t know the squawk is back up.

im sure we will hear from kB at some point 

[TheNorthCydeRises]

Ya'll keep on saying his name.  You know what happens when you say it 3 times . . .

 

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, NBASupes said:

I was looking at some of old content. That was the only thing we agreed on was actually Trae. I didn't even watch one Maryland game in 17-2018. Then again, it was you who I agreed with the most. 

Ya, we agreed on almost everything! Only thing this year would be Nas and Culver for the most part.

 

[NBASupes]

4 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Ya, we agreed on almost everything! Only thing this year would be Nas and Culver for the most part.

 

I don't dislike your Culver takes, I just don't see the same upside. I see Rip Hamilton, Steve Smith, Jalen Rose, type player. You see Pippen. Then again, you see Stan Johnson for Nas, I see Gerald Wallace if all goes right, the Klaw. I do like Culver defensive upside more than the others that I compare him to. 

[Spud2nique]

1 minute ago, NBASupes said:

I don't dislike your Culver takes, I just don't see the same upside. I see Rip Hamilton, Steve Smith, Jalen Rose, type player. You see Pippen. Then again, you see Stan Johnson for Nas, I see Gerald Wallace if all goes right, the Klaw. I do like Culver defensive upside more than the others that I compare him to. 

I wasn’t the one with Pipp but I agreed with @kg01 on that. I cross sports referenced Jerry Rice though coming from a small school that doesn’t excel in basketball often, he took Texas Tech to the championship game with not a lot of help. Man, 10 days away! Yes sirrrrr!

[NBASupes]

3 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

I wasn’t the one with Pipp but I agreed with @kg01 on that. I cross sports referenced Jerry Rice though coming from a small school that doesn’t excel in basketball often, he took Texas Tech to the championship game with not a lot of help. Man, 10 days away! Yes sirrrrr!

Texas Tech has been a successful Basketball team with Chris Beard. Are you going to give that credit to Culver instead? 

[Spud2nique]

2 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Texas Tech has been a successful Basketball team with Chris Beard. Are you going to give that credit to Culver instead? 

I’m just saying they never made it with any other player that I remember. I don’t even remember another player coming from there. Darvin Ham? I think he was on there because I remember his sports illustrated front page dunk from back in the day.

 

Not too much knowledge on their coach? Prolly deserves a ton of credit as well. Not my area. I just like what I see in Culver a lot.

[AHF]

5 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

I’m just saying they never made it with any other player that I remember. I don’t even remember another player coming from there. Darvin Ham? I think he was on there because I remember his sports illustrated front page dunk from back in the day.

 

Not too much knowledge on their coach? Prolly deserves a ton of credit as well. Not my area. I just like what I see in Culver a lot.

They made the elite eight last year and had Zhaire Smith drafted #16 overall.

[NBASupes]

One of the biggest reasons why Cam Reddish is #2 on my Hawks big board behind Zion Williamson

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/05/16/draft-notes-quick-thoughts-question-answer-dropbox/

[Spud2nique]

18 minutes ago, AHF said:

They made the elite eight last year and had Zhaire Smith drafted #16 overall.

Fantastic but there’s a difference between being an elite 8 team and getting to the championship game. Such as there are a difference in players like ur aforementioned Zhaire and Culver. Not many remember every elite team every year but you generally remember who made the championship game.

 

But like I said, the coach is probably doing a fantastic job but without Culver he’s not sniffing anything. My point being Culver went to a small basketball school.

[bleachkit]

2 hours ago, NBASupes said:

It happens, hell me and KB disagree on everything and we agreed on Trae and Kevin. 

He is very anti-tanking, but he had Trae and Kevin high on his board.

[hazer]

Aaaand the apologists start showing up

[NBASupes]

12 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Fantastic but there’s a difference between being an elite 8 team and getting to the championship game. Such as there are a difference in players like ur aforementioned Zhaire and Culver. Not many remember every elite team every year but you generally remember who made the championship game.

 

But like I said, the coach is probably doing a fantastic job but without Culver he’s not sniffing anything. My point being Culver went to a small basketball school.

Beard recruited insanely good and hit on transfers. 

[AHF]

47 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Fantastic but there’s a difference between being an elite 8 team and getting to the championship game. Such as there are a difference in players like ur aforementioned Zhaire and Culver. Not many remember every elite team every year but you generally remember who made the championship game.

Both years they lost to the eventual national champions.  They were better this year but it wasn't a black and white thing.

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But like I said, the coach is probably doing a fantastic job but without Culver he’s not sniffing anything. My point being Culver went to a small basketball school.

Not sure what sniffing anything means but no coach gets anywhere without good players.  How Beard does going forward will say a lot about him but he has already done a ton as far as upgrading that team's talent, including beyond Culver.  

Not sure if you are making the case that making the finals shows Culver is a better prospect but that seems questionable at best given that a lot of coaches do very well without guys who become great NBA players and teams with great NBA talent routinely come up short because of the NCAA one-and-done format.  (Duke this year makes that case, for example.)