Trae Young - The Case for Rookie of the Year

[lethalweapon3]

17 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Two smart guys who watch the damn games

Clearly! Jeff Siegel figured out that Mr. Walker may have simply been wistful about a former Hawks PG.

I had gone looking for some hard-hitting analysis on competitive sports in the Double G, and this was the best reporting I could find.

 

~lw3

[lethalweapon3]

26 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Trae need to drop 50 on Kemba head

Trae might wanna hurry. From a legit Charlotte-area sportswriter...

~lw3

[lethalweapon3]

With Sekou, the Turner clan, et al., there are certainly ATL-oriented sportswriters in this pool, so it's not AS bad as, say, the fustercluck of voters that snubbed Nique for the 50th anniversary team.

Still, a quick scour shows, for the ROY and other NBA award votes, there were sportswriters/broadcasters working directly for local outlets situated in the following NBA markets (in some cases, multiple):

Boston

Chicago

Denver

Detroit

Los Angeles

Memphis

Miami

Milwaukee

New York

Oklahoma City

Philadelphia

Phoenix

Portland

Sacramento

Salt Lake City

San Antonio

Toronto

As for Atlanta and Charlotte's "representative," we got a sports-editor dude from a newsrag in the Charlotte exurbs, a fella who got canned barely a month later.

~lw3

[IheartVolt]

7 hours ago, NBASupes said:

Tyreke Doncic is my name for him in realgm.

I have not visited that place since the Squawk has returned. Those guys stress me out

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, lethalweapon3 said:

Looks like that vote was maybe the final straw for the folks out there at the Double G!

~lw3

 

 

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, lethalweapon3 said:

With Sekou, the Turner clan, et al., there are certainly ATL-oriented sportswriters in this pool, so it's not AS bad as, say, the fustercluck of voters that snubbed Nique for the 50th anniversary team.

Still, a quick scour shows, for the ROY and other NBA award votes, there were sportswriters/broadcasters working directly for local outlets situated in the following NBA markets (in some cases, multiple):

Boston

Chicago

Denver

Detroit

Los Angeles

Memphis

Miami

Milwaukee

New York

Oklahoma City

Philadelphia

Phoenix

Portland

Sacramento

Salt Lake City

San Antonio

Toronto

As for Atlanta and Charlotte's "representative," we got a sports-editor dude from a newsrag in the Charlotte exurbs, a fella who got canned barely a month later.

~lw3

I likes the big guys like JJJ and Ayton. You know, the kids who should be playin this contact sport 🥎. If u ain’t got the siiiizee then you should be a waterboy .

-Richard Walker on not voting for Trae. 

 

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[NBASupes]

Despite Hawks' nice haul from the Luka Doncic deal, Rookie of the Year voting shows Mavs got a generational talent

A whopping 98% of voters favored Luka Doncic over poor Trae Young, the biggest landslide since the Gipper posterized Fritz Mondale. In fairness, Luka and Trae weren't even on the same ballot. The media held the Mavs' wunderkind up for inspection against Oscar Robertson, not the Hawks' electric wraith.

Only the Big O had a better rookie season, statistically speaking, than Luka.

Or maybe you think Luka-vs.-Trae wasn't a fair comparison in the first place. Maybe you say the question is whether Luka is better than Trae and the Hawks' first-round pick this year, Cam Reddish.

Sure, he played in the formidable shadow of Zion Williamson and RJ Barrett at Duke. But that's the thing: He'll play alongside good players in Atlanta, too. Will he occasionally disappear, as he did in college?

Chances are the Mavs can find a piece like Reddish easily enough. They need to find someone better, in fact.

Only one season is in the books, but, the way it looks now, the final tally on the great 2018 draft could come down to the two guys who were traded for each other. Not to get too old school on you, but everything else being equal, go with the big guy over the little guy.

Listen, the Hawks have no complaints coming about the '18 draft. They got the second-best player, probably, and a lottery pick this year. Young may use the voting snub as motivation to take his game up a level or two. You could probably bet on it.

Dallas Morning News

 

Bookmarked! Its time to destroy Dallas every f***ing time we play them

[kg01]

32 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Despite Hawks' nice haul from the Luka Doncic deal, Rookie of the Year voting shows Mavs got a generational talent

A whopping 98% of voters favored Luka Doncic over poor Trae Young, the biggest landslide since the Gipper posterized Fritz Mondale. In fairness, Luka and Trae weren't even on the same ballot. The media held the Mavs' wunderkind up for inspection against Oscar Robertson, not the Hawks' electric wraith.

Only the Big O had a better rookie season, statistically speaking, than Luka.

Or maybe you think Luka-vs.-Trae wasn't a fair comparison in the first place. Maybe you say the question is whether Luka is better than Trae and the Hawks' first-round pick this year, Cam Reddish.

Sure, he played in the formidable shadow of Zion Williamson and RJ Barrett at Duke. But that's the thing: He'll play alongside good players in Atlanta, too. Will he occasionally disappear, as he did in college?

Chances are the Mavs can find a piece like Reddish easily enough. They need to find someone better, in fact.

Only one season is in the books, but, the way it looks now, the final tally on the great 2018 draft could come down to the two guys who were traded for each other. Not to get too old school on you, but everything else being equal, go with the big guy over the little guy.

Listen, the Hawks have no complaints coming about the '18 draft. They got the second-best player, probably, and a lottery pick this year. Young may use the voting snub as motivation to take his game up a level or two. You could probably bet on i

 

Bookmarked! Its time to destroy Dallas every f***ing time we play them

That whole article is weird considering we've been told that no one in DAL feels the need to ride down Trae to prop up L***.

[lethalweapon3]

My last time beating a dead horse as it pertains to Alabaster Reke, but the sole guy who found a way to put Luka on his All-NBA ballot also did this...

~lw3

[IheartVolt]

I have a feeling this whole media campaign is gonna blow up in their faces, and not because Luka is gonna be a complete failure, but he will never live up to these expectations they wrecklessly put on the kid.

 I honestly do not see the hype. He has a decent stroke and IQ but he is slow. He will be a solid NBA player, and maybe an all-star his career but they are putting LeBron type pressure on this guy and I don't think it's fair to him.

[AHF]

47 minutes ago, IheartVolt said:

I have a feeling this whole media campaign is gonna blow up in their faces, and not because Luka is gonna be a complete failure, but he will never live up to these expectations they wrecklessly put on the kid.

 I honestly do not see the hype. He has a decent stroke and IQ but he is slow. He will be a solid NBA player, and maybe an all-star his career but they are putting LeBron type pressure on this guy and I don't think it's fair to him.

I think he looks like an outstanding prospect but comparing him to LeBron and the Big O is wayyy too much too early.  I don't see a path for him to be in the discussion with those guys just given his physical limitations.  Agree with you that the hype can spin out of control.

I just focus on the actual player.  If I got worked up everytime a team or player was overhyped by the media, I would hate every team in New England.  (Wait, I do hate every team in New England.  Hmmm.....)

[Spud2nique]

Luck Fuka Doncic ok Supes already put the Tyreke hex on his a$$. Poor guy .

[Spud2nique]

2 hours ago, NBASupes said:

Despite Hawks' nice haul from the Luka Doncic deal, Rookie of the Year voting shows Mavs got a generational talent

A whopping 98% of voters favored Luka Doncic over poor Trae Young, the biggest landslide since the Gipper posterized Fritz Mondale. In fairness, Luka and Trae weren't even on the same ballot. The media held the Mavs' wunderkind up for inspection against Oscar Robertson, not the Hawks' electric wraith.

Only the Big O had a better rookie season, statistically speaking, than Luka.

Or maybe you think Luka-vs.-Trae wasn't a fair comparison in the first place. Maybe you say the question is whether Luka is better than Trae and the Hawks' first-round pick this year, Cam Reddish.

Sure, he played in the formidable shadow of Zion Williamson and RJ Barrett at Duke. But that's the thing: He'll play alongside good players in Atlanta, too. Will he occasionally disappear, as he did in college?

Chances are the Mavs can find a piece like Reddish easily enough. They need to find someone better, in fact.

Only one season is in the books, but, the way it looks now, the final tally on the great 2018 draft could come down to the two guys who were traded for each other. Not to get too old school on you, but everything else being equal, go with the big guy over the little guy.

Listen, the Hawks have no complaints coming about the '18 draft. They got the second-best player, probably, and a lottery pick this year. Young may use the voting snub as motivation to take his game up a level or two. You could probably bet on it.

Dallas Morning News

 

Bookmarked! Its time to destroy Dallas every f***ing time we play them

Ur late to the party Supes. I’ve been on board the best Mav butt train since June 2018. 

Trae>Doncic

Trae+Cam>>>>>> Doncic

Funny, two guys I don’t like very much have the initials of LD (Larry Drew, Luka Donc).

[AHF]

BTW, what is he talking about with this?

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A whopping 98% of voters favored Luka Doncic over poor Trae Young, the biggest landslide since the Gipper posterized Fritz Mondale. In fairness, Luka and Trae weren't even on the same ballot. The media held the Mavs' wunderkind up for inspection against Oscar Robertson, not the Hawks' electric wraith.

In 2016, KAT won 100% of the votes.  Dame 100%.  Kyrie Irving 98%.  Brandon Roy 99%.  Chris Paul 99%.  Vince 96%.  Duncan 97%.  Shaq 98%.  Lots more above 90%.

This isn't unusual in award voting.  Even 100% wouldn't be historic like Reagan / Mondale.

[IheartVolt]

2 hours ago, AHF said:

BTW, what is he talking about with this?

In 2016, KAT won 100% of the votes.  Dame 100%.  Kyrie Irving 98%.  Brandon Roy 99%.  Chris Paul 99%.  Vince 96%.  Duncan 97%.  Shaq 98%.  Lots more above 90%.

This isn't unusual in award voting.  Even 100% wouldn't be historic like Reagan / Mondale.

It comes off to me as just some asshole writer trying to make Trae look bad in this loss. I mean was that statement even necessary even if it were true unless he was taking a pot shot at the true rookie of the two?

Just some miserable asshole trying to dog a young man who does not deserve the treatment

[kg01]

4 hours ago, lethalweapon3 said:

My last time beating a dead horse as it pertains to Alabaster Reke, but the sole guy who found a way to put Luka on his All-NBA ballot also did this...

~lw3

Someone votes mindlessly like this every year.  It illustrates the fact that players' compensation (i.e. qualification for max contracts and such) should not be tied to the results of these votes.

Voting like this guy did should disqualify him and his publication from having a vote.  Dissent is fine but clearly not paying attention is quite another.  The guy also voted Rudy Gay 2nd team all-NBA iiuc.

[Thomas]

We get it, Luka gets the award but we have the better team player. They just don't get the latter part because its not so shiny. Sports writers make me appreciate Cabernet more and more every minute. Could end up a problem I guess.

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, Thomas said:

We get it, Luka gets the award but we have the better team player. They just don't get the latter part because its not so shiny. Sports writers make me appreciate Cabernet more and more every minute. Could end up a problem I guess.

Cab it baby  

[enrique]

5 hours ago, Thomas said:

We get it, Luka gets the award but we have the better team player. They just don't get the latter part because its not so shiny. Sports writers make me appreciate Cabernet more and more every minute. Could end up a problem I guess.

Sorry, I have been slammed at work, but just read the article by the nut job putting down Trae and singling out Luka as the next Oscar Robertson. Insanity. Both Trae and Luka lay claims to stats that no other rookie other than a 22-year old OR (playing almost 43 minutes a game) compiled. Neither are OR, nor will either likely have his career. 

That being said, Trae is an incredibly rare peer group with his rookie campaign...equal or better than Luka. Voters be damned:)