kg01 Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, sturt said: I've been as reluctant to drink the kool-aid on Trae as anyone, but I have to acknowledge that his second half must be delineated from his first half if we're to do any well-informed, balanced analysis. Can't just take his total first season on its face... have to zoom in closer. Just one problem with spouting stats and metrics and formulating an opinion based solely or primarily on that. I guarantee the successful organizations don't use analytics that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 4, 2019 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 The comment was relevant to this statement... 1 hour ago, TheNorthCydeRises said: Doesn't these invalidate Trae as a building block and a star if he can't outplay his opponent on a nightly basis? How "successful organizations use analytics" is a somewhat different conversation. I'm just saying, in essence, he's trending the right way, and it's a mistake not to recognize trends in assessing what Trae is likely to become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, sturt said: I've been as reluctant to drink the kool-aid on Trae as anyone, but I have to acknowledge that his second half must be delineated from his first half if we're to do any well-informed, balanced analysis. Can't just take his total first season on its face... have to zoom in closer. and honestly, his 2nd half has as much to do with Collins getting back, healthy and in shape as anything. Collins could make me look passable at the point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, kg01 said: Just one problem with spouting stats and metrics and formulating an opinion based solely or primarily on that. I guarantee the successful organizations don't use analytics that way. You sound like Justin Tierany from NBA radio . Hey Eddie Hey Eddie...u know Eddie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 Trae helped the Hawks outscore the rest of the NBA for several weeks. When was the last time we did that? Defense was a big problem but the draft remedied a lot of that in my opinion. All three guys will help with that more and more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 25 minutes ago, Thomas said: Trae helped the Hawks outscore the rest of the NBA for several weeks. When was the last time we did that? Defense was a big problem but the draft remedied a lot of that in my opinion. All three guys will help with that more and more. When was the last time? January 2015? 1998? 94? It’s been a while. I agree with the D getting better with big DeAndre and his wingspan. Allows other guys to play the passing lanes a ton more, expect some quick 1-0 fast breaks this year. We are in for some smart exciting efficient ! Yes sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 Hammering Trae wasn’t my intention. I think most here think of Trae as a building block and I was just trying to say that Trae isn’t a star going by those stats and so maybe the stats aren’t the end all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted July 4, 2019 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Plainview1981 said: Hammering Trae wasn’t my intention. I think most here think of Trae as a building block and I was just trying to say that Trae isn’t a star going by those stats and so maybe the stats aren’t the end all. They never are and should never be. Sometimes, just sometimes I prefer to believe what my lying eyes tell me about a players play on the court and how it impacts other players. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 4, 2019 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnice Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddielives Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 No thanks to Tristan. With the crap that's left out there for centers, I'm inclined at this point to just let Bruno be our backup center and grab whatever scrub we can for a 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTime Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Eddielives said: No thanks to Tristan. With the crap that's left out there for centers, I'm inclined at this point to just let Bruno be our backup center and grab whatever scrub we can for a 3rd. Unless we get a first for that ugly contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 4, 2019 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 Just a rumor. Not sure of the legit cred of the site, but I do know they claim to have actual sources inside front offices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, sturt said: Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... This twitter guy be lying his ass off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted July 4, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, sturt said: Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... With you on this. He is an expiring $18.5M. They would have to give us a serious asset for us to take that liability on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted July 4, 2019 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, AHF said: With you on this. He is an expiring $18.5M. They would have to give us a serious asset for us to take that liability on. We don't have capspace for $18 mil so there's that, so it should involve other players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted July 4, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 Spud has a new favorite player. The "lonely god" has quit the Warriors: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/jimmer-fredette-quits-warriors-summer-league-team-appears-again-to-be-done-with-nba-024001763.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member cam1218 Posted July 4, 2019 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 Not Hawks related, but have I missed any news on Kawhi? I’d love for him to go to LAC (get him out of the East) or stay in Toronto. I keep seeing the Lakers rumors and I’m not wanting to see another super team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 4, 2019 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 24 minutes ago, cam1218 said: Not Hawks related, but have I missed any news on Kawhi? I’d love for him to go to LAC (get him out of the East) or stay in Toronto. I keep seeing the Lakers rumors and I’m not wanting to see another super team. That's the latest I've seen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted July 4, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 Saw something saying it might still be multiple days. Who knows. You are talking about Kawhi who has been mercurial over the last two years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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