Premium Member Atlantaholic Posted November 25, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 We have a legit roster finally. At least on paper. Still, haven't even had a good on paper team since the playoff days so good stuff. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RedDawg#8 Posted November 25, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 58 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Say it louder for the people in the back!!! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kg01 Posted November 25, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) You're welcome for the reverse-jinx, folx. Sorry for the late post. It's been a wild nite in the 'sac celebratory blok partee. We might might've burned @JayBirdHawk house down. I dunno, I passed out. Nevermind the white powder around my nose, that's just .... sugar? Seriously, the Hawks won the offseason? When does that happen? You gotta party on that. Eta. The double-edged sword of it is the national people have to talk about us now, but then it becomes painfully obvious none of them have ever actually watched us play. Edited November 25, 2020 by kg01 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurpilo Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 So glad we added Bogi, A+ for our offseason. Suddenly we are deepest team on he east and is not close. The difference is a superstar, we still don’t have a guy so impactful as Giannis, Butler, Embiid, Tatum.... That guy can be Trae Young, his growth along with Collins and Cam growth will tell us which playoff spot we will be landing. I think top 4 is a real possibility if Trae and John continue their improvement as they have done and Cam play as last year 2nd half. The biggest uncertainty for me is coaching, and specially defense. I think we need another big to have answers for dominant centers. Skal or Demon please 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Final_quest Posted November 25, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 It’s hard to project this roster because it is a dramatic shift. One thing the rest of the league and talking heads don’t realize is the Hawks have played close to .500 with Trae and John Collins. Now we’ve had a dream offseason and upgraded. No telling how good this will get. Preseason is in about 20 days! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) Detroit Pistons finalizing roster after active week of moves, waive center Dewayne Dedmon Edited November 25, 2020 by thecampster 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurpilo Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 hace 26 minutos, thecampster dijo: Detroit Pistons finalizing roster after active week of moves, waive center Dewayne Dedmon We need to sign him, we need him more than Solomon Hill, we need a 7 footer for big centers as inaurance for Capela. Okongwu and Bruno might not be ready to play on a playoff team. I would be happy with Skal too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member AtlHomer Posted November 25, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, gurpilo said: We need to sign him, we need him more than Solomon Hill, we need a 7 footer for big centers as inaurance for Capela. Okongwu and Bruno might not be ready to play on a playoff team. I would be happy with Skal too. If we were to look to acquire him, we would probably need to trade/waive an existing player to free up a roster spot. That said, would we still be obligated for the $13M salary or would that fall to DET to pay most of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted November 25, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, gurpilo said: We need to sign him, we need him more than Solomon Hill, we need a 7 footer for big centers as inaurance for Capela. Okongwu and Bruno might not be ready to play on a playoff team. I would be happy with Skal too. We can't sign Dedmon again this season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTime Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, gurpilo said: We need to sign him, we need him more than Solomon Hill, we need a 7 footer for big centers as inaurance for Capela. Okongwu and Bruno might not be ready to play on a playoff team. I would be happy with Skal too. I agree. I see Collins playing a lot of 5 come crunch time. That's why I don't understand people initially panicking with the Gallo deal. Gallo and Collins are both going to play a lot of minutes this year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurpilo Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 hace 4 minutos, GameTime dijo: I agree. I see Collins playing a lot of 5 come crunch time. That's why I don't understand people initially panicking with the Gallo deal. Gallo and Collins are both going to play a lot of minutes this year. Yeah I said the same on the depth chart thread, Gallo is going to play 4, Collins will slide to 5 a lot. But for big centers we need some insurance behind Capela ad Collins might be destroyed on defense depending on the opponent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, AtlHomer said: If we were to look to acquire him, we would probably need to trade/waive an existing player to free up a roster spot. That said, would we still be obligated for the $13M salary or would that fall to DET to pay most of it? Detroit pays the difference between the signing team salary and his waived salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thecampster Posted November 25, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said: We can't sign Dedmon again this season. Not correct. https://cbabreakdown.com/trades "No Re-Acquisitions — Once a team trades a player, it cannot reacquire that player during the same season. If the team trades a player between seasons, it cannot reacquire that player until the end of the next season. The only exceptions to these rules are if the player is waived and no other team claims the player. " Edited November 25, 2020 by thecampster 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thecampster Posted November 25, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 So basically, if he clears the waiver process, he can be signed by anyone. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) Where the Hawks currently stand. Active Roster Cap $107,586,617 Dead Money $744,684 Total Cap Allocations $108,331,301 2020 NBA Salary Cap Max $109,140,000 Cap Max Space $808,699 Practical Cap Space $2,410,292 Danilo Gallinari 32 SF Sign-and-Trade $19,523,810 ($19,523,810) $19,523,810 Bogdan Bogdanovic 28 SG Cap Space $18,000,000 ($18,000,000) $18,000,000 Clint Capela 26 C Bird $16,000,000 ($16,000,000) $16,000,000 Tony Snell 28 SG Bird $12,178,571 ($12,178,571) $12,178,571 Rajon Rondo 34 PG Cap Space $7,500,000 ($7,500,000) $7,500,000 De'Andre Hunter 22 SF Rookie $7,422,000 ($7,422,000) $7,422,000 Trae Young 22 PG Rookie $6,571,800 ($6,571,800) $6,571,800 Onyeka Okongwu 19 PF Rookie $5,813,640 - $5,813,640 Cam Reddish 21 SF Rookie $4,458,000 ($4,458,000) $4,458,000 John Collins 23 PF Rookie $4,137,302 ($4,137,302) $4,137,302 Kevin Huerter 22 SG Rookie $2,761,920 ($2,761,920) $2,761,920 Brandon Goodwin 24 PG Minimum $1,701,593 ($100,000) $1,701,593 Bruno Fernando 22 C Cap Space $1,517,981 ($1,517,981) $1,517,981 Total $107,586,617 Pending Transactions! PLAYER (2) AGE POS. INCOMING CAP Kris Dunn 26 PG Exception $4,767,000 Solomon Hill 29 SF $1,620,564 2020-21 Two-Way Players signed to Two-Way contracts that are currently designated to G-League affiliate. Two-way salaries do not count against a team's Total Cap Allocations. PLAYER (2) AGE POS. BASE SALARY CAP FIGURE Nathan Knight 23 PF - - Skylar Mays 23 SG - - Edited November 25, 2020 by thecampster 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) A bit of clarity on the above numbers. The salary of Okongwu is based off his hold and not what his actual salary will be. These transactions are being processed in this order so we have the room to sign everyone as allowed. Dunn will be finalized last as he'll have to be fit in with an exception. When all said and done (if I'm calculating this right) we will finish about 4 million over the cap). We will have 15 roster slots and 2 two ways. Edited November 25, 2020 by thecampster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted November 25, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 OO will sign for 120% of the slotted amount. You can be certain about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 Just now, mrhonline said: OO will sign for 120% of the slotted amount. You can be certain about that. Maybe...not really sure yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS5 Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 I want to preface this by saying that I want Collins to stay and I want to see this roster play before making any more moves. But other than working/hoping to deal Collins, is there any reason not to extend him as this point? We're not projected to have any cap space in '21 so I don't see much of a benefit to waiting until next off season. In fact I think his value can only go up this season, barring any major injuries or further suspensions (I doubt this is a recurring issue). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, DS5 said: I want to preface this by saying that I want Collins to stay and I want to see this roster play before making any more moves. But other than working/hoping to deal Collins, is there any reason not to extend him as this point? We're not projected to have any cap space in '21 so I don't see much of a benefit to waiting until next off season. In fact I think his value can only go up this season, barring any major injuries or further suspensions (I doubt this is a recurring issue). Well his failed drug test puts us in a strange boat. If he failed another he'd be on a much longer suspension. You don't want to be on the hook for that salary if he's sitting a year and would make him much less tradable at that point. Or catastrophic injury (see Klay Thompson). You wait these things out and sign him at the end of the year if you're confident he's getting the max at the end anyway. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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