bleachkit Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, AHF said: Sacto really has to let this one go. Doesn’t make sense for them to match. Bobby Marks says they have no reason not to match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, JeffS17 said: I appreciate the stats ans analysis but individual stats in team sports are never near perfect. I think what separates an average GM v a good one is the guys that understand how to contextualize the stats and have a vision for the team's pieces and how they fit together. Bogdonavich could come to Atlanta and put up better stats because of better spacing/plays/schemes on offense, being a part of better defensive schemes, etc... and he will still be the same player, despite his stats improving. I'm not saying this WILL happen, but it COULD happen and I trust Schlenks vision for the team. I think people have him confused with Bojan. These are his first 3 years in the league. He's 28....there is no bigger "upside". This is who he is. I'll go on record now and say this was not a good idea. We overpaid with other options on the table. Season Team Type G Min FGM FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% FTM FTA FT% OR DR Reb Ast TO Stl Blk Pts Total - Reg 209 28:10 5.0 11.5 43.4 2.0 5.5 37.4 1.5 1.9 80.6 0.5 2.8 3.2 3.5 1.6 1.0 0.2 13.5 2017-18 SAC Reg 78 27:53 4.4 9.9 44.6 1.7 4.2 39.2 1.3 1.5 84.0 0.4 2.5 2.9 3.3 1.6 0.9 0.2 11.8 2018-19 SAC Reg 70 27:49 5.2 12.3 41.8 1.9 5.3 36.0 1.9 2.3 82.7 0.6 2.9 3.5 3.8 1.7 1.0 0.2 14.1 2019-20 SAC Reg 61 28:57 5.5 12.6 44.0 2.7 7.2 37.2 1.4 1.9 74.1 0.4 3.0 3.4 3.4 1.7 1.0 0.2 15.1 Edited November 22, 2020 by thecampster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, AHF said: Sacto really has to let this one go. Doesn’t make sense for them to match. We hope so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, bleachkit said: Bobby Marks says they have no reason not to match. Come on Bobby bruh! Hush it up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 minute ago, JTB said: Come on Bobby bruh! Hush it up! That's not encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, thecampster said: I think people have him confused with Bojan. there are his first 3 years in the league. He's 28....there is no bigger "upside". This is who he is. I'll go on record now and say this was not a good idea. We overpaid with other options on the table. Season Team Type G Min FGM FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% FTM FTA FT% OR DR Reb Ast TO Stl Blk Pts Total - Reg 209 28:10 5.0 11.5 43.4 2.0 5.5 37.4 1.5 1.9 80.6 0.5 2.8 3.2 3.5 1.6 1.0 0.2 13.5 2017-18 SAC Reg 78 27:53 4.4 9.9 44.6 1.7 4.2 39.2 1.3 1.5 84.0 0.4 2.5 2.9 3.3 1.6 0.9 0.2 11.8 2018-19 SAC Reg 70 27:49 5.2 12.3 41.8 1.9 5.3 36.0 1.9 2.3 82.7 0.6 2.9 3.5 3.8 1.7 1.0 0.2 14.1 2019-20 SAC Reg 61 28:57 5.5 12.6 44.0 2.7 7.2 37.2 1.4 1.9 74.1 0.4 3.0 3.4 3.4 1.7 1.0 0.2 15.1 This will be his 4th year in the NBA. He was an older when he came over. There were not many BETTER options, there may have been more reasonable options. In the Bubble, I know @kg01 take the bubble with a major grain of salt, these are his games DATE OPP RESULT MIN FG FG% 3PT 3P% FT FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS Thu 8/13 @LAL W 136-122 27 11-23 47.8 5-11 45.5 0-0 0.0 6 9 0 2 0 1 27 Tue 8/11 vsNO W 112-106 38 7-10 70.0 1-2 50.0 1-1 100.0 6 7 0 2 0 4 16 Sun 8/9 vsHOU L 129-112 36 5-12 41.7 2-8 25.0 1-2 50.0 5 8 1 1 3 4 13 Fri 8/7 @BKN L 119-106 34 11-19 57.9 4-8 50.0 1-1 100.0 6 2 0 0 4 3 27 Thu 8/6 vsNO W 140-125 37 13-20 65.0 6-9 66.7 3-3 100.0 4 3 0 1 3 0 35 Tue 8/4 vsDAL L 114-110 OT 21 1-15 6.7 1-8 12.5 0-0 0.0 3 2 0 1 3 0 3 Sun 8/2 @ORL L 132-116 31 4-13 30.8 2-4 50.0 2-2 100.0 4 5 0 1 3 0 12 DATE OPP RESULT MIN FG FG% 3PT 3P% FT FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS Fri 7/31 @SA L 129-120 32 8-15 53.3 6-11 54.5 2-2 100.0 2 2 0 2 2 1 24 That's 19.6 points, 4.5 rebounds, and 4.75 assists on 47.2% shooting and 45% from three. If you're getting that player, it's well worth the money. The bubble was generally the next season for young players, although Bogdon's 28, he's only three years into his NBA career and could def make improvements to his game. I'm not expecting the above statline. However, this team can def use his shooting and playmaking ability. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, bleachkit said: That's not encouraging. What about the other 10 plugged in reporters that are saying the Kings are not likely to match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekiEcko Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, JTB said: Come on Bobby bruh! Hush it up! If Kings wants to do it then do it but they will have to trade Buddy and they still have that 15% kicker, poison pill and how the offer sheet is structure. If they want to be brave like that, then let them match this. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted November 22, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 minute ago, marco102 said: What about the other 10 plugged in reporters that are saying the Kings are not likely to match? Marks is saying the Kings would be smart to match, not that they will match. I imagine the Kings will spend the 48 hours seeing what offers for Hield are out there. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 Just now, mrhonline said: Marks is saying the Kings would be smart to match, not that they will match. I understand that but bleachkit is using that to go into worry mode. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted November 22, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 And now...we wait. I suppose I could go look through the FA rankings and see if there's any upside forwards out there for the minimum. Or watch TV? Do the bills? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, marco102 said: I understand that but bleachkit is using that to go into worry mode. I don't follow the Kings closely, if Sac beat reporters are saying they won't match that's definitely good. Just now, mrhonline said: And now...we wait. I suppose I could go look through the FA rankings and see if there's any upside forwards out there for the minimum. Or watch TV? Do the bills? Sunday baby. NFL football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted November 22, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, bleachkit said: Sunday baby. NFL football. No offense to the football fans, but...dry paint. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deester11 Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, mrhonline said: No offense to the football fans, but...dry paint. I'm offended, but so what. Ha. Dry paint is waiting for the Bogi saga to be done. This team is deep and I'm excited for training camp to begin. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, mrhonline said: No offense to the football fans, but...dry paint. I love NFL. Great athletes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted November 22, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 minute ago, bleachkit said: I love NFL. Great athletes. Some of the best on the planet, no doubt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted November 22, 2020 Author Admin Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 Just now, mrhonline said: Some of the best on the planet, no doubt. ... and some that are just fat and strong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted November 22, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, marco102 said: This will be his 4th year in the NBA. He was an older when he came over. There were not many BETTER options, there may have been more reasonable options. In the Bubble, I know @kg01 take the bubble with a major grain of salt, these are his games DATE OPP RESULT MIN FG FG% 3PT 3P% FT FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS Thu 8/13 @LAL W 136-122 27 11-23 47.8 5-11 45.5 0-0 0.0 6 9 0 2 0 1 27 Tue 8/11 vsNO W 112-106 38 7-10 70.0 1-2 50.0 1-1 100.0 6 7 0 2 0 4 16 Sun 8/9 vsHOU L 129-112 36 5-12 41.7 2-8 25.0 1-2 50.0 5 8 1 1 3 4 13 Fri 8/7 @BKN L 119-106 34 11-19 57.9 4-8 50.0 1-1 100.0 6 2 0 0 4 3 27 Thu 8/6 vsNO W 140-125 37 13-20 65.0 6-9 66.7 3-3 100.0 4 3 0 1 3 0 35 Tue 8/4 vsDAL L 114-110 OT 21 1-15 6.7 1-8 12.5 0-0 0.0 3 2 0 1 3 0 3 Sun 8/2 @ORL L 132-116 31 4-13 30.8 2-4 50.0 2-2 100.0 4 5 0 1 3 0 12 DATE OPP RESULT MIN FG FG% 3PT 3P% FT FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS Fri 7/31 @SA L 129-120 32 8-15 53.3 6-11 54.5 2-2 100.0 2 2 0 2 2 1 24 That's 19.6 points, 4.5 rebounds, and 4.75 assists on 47.2% shooting and 45% from three. If you're getting that player, it's well worth the money. The bubble was generally the next season for young players, although Bogdon's 28, he's only three years into his NBA career and could def make improvements to his game. I'm not expecting the above statline. However, this team can def use his shooting and playmaking ability. And Chris Crawford looked hella good in the playoffs that one year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 minute ago, capstone21 said: ... and some that are just fat and strong Most of those fat guys would smoke your average NBA big in a race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted November 22, 2020 Author Admin Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Diesel said: And Chris Crawford looked hella good in the playoffs that one year. Really? You are comparing a guy who has consistently shown he can contribute to One quarter Crawford? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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