RedDawg#8 Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Diesel said: I get the feeling that either Dunn or Rondo will be traded before the end of the season. They have very tradeable contracts, but if we are doing well I see no reason why Schlenk would break it up so early. It would have to be a part of a major deal, not just to help someone else get better, but to bring us back a big piece. Edited November 29, 2020 by RedDawg#8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted November 29, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said: They have very tradeable contracts, but if we are doing well I see no reason why Schlenk would break it up so early. It would have to be a part of a major deal, not just to help someone else get better, but to bring us back a big piece. Schlenk talked about Dunn like he would be in the SF rotation. What I believe is that Dunn was picked up because he was cheap. Rondo's value will increase for other playoff teams near the playoffs. Dunn has value but if he doesn't learn to run the offense... then he would be tradable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg#8 Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, Diesel said: Schlenk talked about Dunn like he would be in the SF rotation. What I believe is that Dunn was picked up because he was cheap. Rondo's value will increase for other playoff teams near the playoffs. Dunn has value but if he doesn't learn to run the offense... then he would be tradable. I took it as him believing Dunn has the ability to guard 1-3 very well and he would be used as such, as a stopper used to slow down the opponents best perimeter scorer regardless of position. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5 Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 50 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said: I took it as him believing Dunn has the ability to guard 1-3 very well and he would be used as such, as a stopper used to slow down the opponents best perimeter scorer regardless of position. Dunn and Capela are going to be such nice additions to our late game defensive lineups. Dunn/Cam could end up being the stingiest duo in the league. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 9 hours ago, High5 said: Dunn and Capela are going to be such nice additions to our late game defensive lineups. Dunn/Cam could end up being the stingiest duo in the league. This. You can really tell the people who didn't watch the Hawks last year. Some say Hunter is a better defender than Reddish and Reddish hasn't bought in on the defensive end (Yes, someone really said that.). Some say that Reddish was a terrible defender. Like why speak on things you don't know? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 10 hours ago, High5 said: Dunn and Capela are going to be such nice additions to our late game defensive lineups. Dunn/Cam could end up being the stingiest duo in the league. I'd love to see a Rondo/Dunn/Cam/Hunter/Okongwu lineup just put clamps on opposing squads. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg#8 Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Carmine said: I'd love to see a Rondo/Dunn/Cam/Hunter/Okongwu lineup just put clamps on opposing squads. Or Dunn/Cam/Hill/Okungwu/Capela or Dunn/Cam/Hunter/Hill/Capela Got to have Capela out there if we are talking defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 Are we selling the offense of Dunn short? Read somewhere that he was a pretty good offensive player when he came to the NBA but that he had been asked to concentrate on defense. It's not unheard of for a player to join the Hawks and become a better shooter. I don't expect him to become the type shooter that Bogey Man is. But, improved. Yes, I expect him to be better than advertised!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5 Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 2 hours ago, marco102 said: This. You can really tell the people who didn't watch the Hawks last year. Some say Hunter is a better defender than Reddish and Reddish hasn't bought in on the defensive end (Yes, someone really said that.). Some say that Reddish was a terrible defender. Like why speak on things you don't know? Finding an opposing fan who is knowledgeable about the Hawks is like finding a unicorn. The average fan is already dumb when it comes to popular teams and we've been completely out of the spotlight for a few years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MaceCase Posted November 29, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 hour ago, High5 said: Finding an opposing fan who is knowledgeable about the Hawks is like finding a unicorn. The average fan is already dumb when it comes to popular teams and we've been completely out of the spotlight for a few years. It’s not even stupidity, it’s the willful ignorance that gets me. The Hawks made the playoffs for a decade straight and yet got overlooked in every single playoff discussion. The team then rebuilds for several seasons and the general attitude is the team has been in the lottery for 20 years already with 20 more in sight. The excuse is the team is boring and needs a star so what do the Hawks do? Draft a legit star yet every other week there’s a “who would you build your franchise around, Trae Young or Bol Bol?” thread. Meanwhile these same folks can tell you the +/- of every Grizzlies unit and Devin Booker’s 4th quarter PER off head but will hit you with the “wuh? Collins missed 25 games? Cuz he’s injury prone that’s why y’all are gonna trade him. Wuh? Suspension? Well the record would have been the same cuz uhm...defense! Yea, defense” 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHost83 Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Gray Mule said: Are we selling the offense of Dunn short? Read somewhere that he was a pretty good offensive player when he came to the NBA but that he had been asked to concentrate on defense. It's not unheard of for a player to join the Hawks and become a better shooter. I don't expect him to become the type shooter that Bogey Man is. But, improved. Yes, I expect him to be better than advertised!! All I know is that Dunn is a light year more competent than Bembry on the offensive end. A lot less ridiculous turnovers and better defense. Dunn will not amaze anyone offensively, but if we can carve him a niche as a slasher on that side of the ball, we have the point guards that will reward him for his energy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 On 11/25/2020 at 3:52 PM, MaceCase said: Rich man’s Bembry, poor man’s Avery Bradley/Marcus Smart/Toney Allen. So he's a middle class Ricky Rubio? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted November 29, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said: So he's a middle class Ricky Rubio? Rubio is an outstanding passer and good defender. Dunn is an outstanding defender and functional passer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 On 11/28/2020 at 1:00 PM, Diesel said: I get the feeling that either Dunn or Rondo will be traded before the end of the season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceCase Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said: So he's a middle class Ricky Rubio? Naw, I compare him more to the plethora of combos that teams had no defined offensive role for (can’t table set at PG or score enough at SG) but managed to stay in rotations thanks to becoming defensive stoppers and unlock their final forms when they have a hot shooting night from 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted April 26, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 Game #62, with 10 games left - we may finally see Kris Dunn tonight! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg#8 Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 1 minute ago, JayBirdHawk said: Game #62, with 10 games left - we may finally see Kris Dunn tonight! My blood just started flowing if you known what I mean lol 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post JayBirdHawk Posted April 26, 2021 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said: My blood just started flowing if you known what I mean lol 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 The low down on Dunn's offense. He got a bit of a bad rap in Chicago. They wanted him to be their engine and score as well as create. He was too young and the supporting case was not good enough to help. He is a good floor general. Gets guys into the right sets. He is an average to better than average playmaker but also can make bad decision/telegraph where he is going with the ball. He is lower tier starting point guard offensively and that's mostly due to inconsistent shooting. His mechanics aren't terrible but they are, well...mechanical. (career 72.6% free throw shooter) He is a bit stiff and considering he is more muscular than your average point guard, that makes sense. Flexibility training could do him wonders. Basically, if you've ever played basketball with running back, you know exactly what I'm saying. If you want to point to flaws shooting, its an inconsistent release point (vertical) and rushing his shots / not shooting in rhythm. But he his good at running the team, protecting the ball on the dribble. He'll play a slower pace than Trae but not as slow as Bogi. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kg01 Posted April 26, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 3 hours ago, RedDawg#8 said: My blood just started flowing if you known what I mean lol I tried finding a gif response to this but ..... well, NSFW is a little too weak to describe what I found. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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