Popular Post Gray Mule Posted December 1, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 NBA Supes: You told us that there was a mega, blockbuster deal in the works. Hawk fans would be greatly pleased with the results. We all know that it didn't happen. We also know that you could not give out the details. Personally, I am pleased with our draft picks and the new Hawks that have been added. My question: Would the mega deal have been as good as what we really have now? Question 2: I feel that Atlanta is now in position to make the playoffs this season and make some noise when we get there. Am I being too much of a homer? Or, is my dream of being back reasonable? Thanks for all you do for us here on the Squawk. I appreciate it. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 @capstone21, @AHF, and @mrhonline should open it back up. I need to do a fact check on the items as I promised @bleachkit I would. They wouldn't have been able to have the offseason they had with that trade. As you seen with John Wall, putting out the player's name is bad business for the player's mentioned especially if they are not OPENLY available. It's hard to answer that question. There is still some pending items for the Hawks right now, long term. With this trade, not so much. We would know what we up be for the next 3-4 years. I am extremely optimistic so I think we could be a top tier regular season EC team but realistically. It makes sense to see Atlanta as a top 7 lock. I am less worried about chemistry as fit is far more important in the NBA. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted December 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 Supes, just put it here. The old will then be made new !! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted December 1, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 58 minutes ago, NBASupes said: @capstone21, @AHF, and @mrhonline should open it back up. I need to do a fact check on the items as I promised @bleachkit I would. They wouldn't have been able to have the offseason they had with that trade. As you seen with John Wall, putting out the player's name is bad business for the player's mentioned especially if they are not OPENLY available. It's hard to answer that question. There is still some pending items for the Hawks right now, long term. With this trade, not so much. We would know what we up be for the next 3-4 years. I am extremely optimistic so I think we could be a top tier regular season EC team but realistically. It makes sense to see Atlanta as a top 7 lock. I am less worried about chemistry as fit is far more important in the NBA. It actually has been unlocked 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kg01 Posted December 1, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 2 hours ago, capstone21 said: It actually has been unlocked Ha, this is the ultimate 'hold me back, but don't let me go' moment. "Oh you just wait'll that thread is unlocked, I'll show you!" "Uh, the thread is unlocked." Kidding, supes. I know you'll make good. Oh, don't look at me like that, supes. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted December 1, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 Hahaha. I unlocked it after the Bogdan sheet was not matched by the Kings. And then went to bed, forgetting to mention I unlocked it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted December 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 STOP IT ! Seems that, last season, the Hawks couldn't. Things had to get better. Defense? Hawks defense is expected to be much improved. Hawks offense is expected to be improved. Someone has said that Atlanta has not finished building this season's team. That there may be another deal out there that the Hawks will be a part of. Rumor has it that some NBA teams have not completed their roster, having open spots to fill. Supes, have you heard any rumors? Is there any smoke coming out of the Hawk camp? So much has now happened so fast, can we really expect anything else to happen?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thecampster Posted December 2, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 There are rumblings that a few teams still want to get under the LT. Snell's contract is being discussed. There is a possibility he is moved before the season starts for a higher priced player or at the deadline. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thecampster Posted December 2, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 Current teams in the LT and by how much: Bucks ($1.3 million) Spurs (1.4 million) Clippers ( $5.2 million) Houston ($8.4 million) Philly (8.46 million) Nets ($24.8 million) Warriors ($41.7 million) 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thecampster Posted December 2, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 Snell's base salary is $12.178 million. Any trade to lower someone else's tax or get them out of the LT altogether would be for a player making 17.2 million or less but more than Snell. There is no person on the Bucks who fits this criteria. DeJounte Murray or Rudy Gay on the Spurs would fit. Only Marcus Morris' salary or Patrick Beverly would do anything for the Clippers and it ain't much. Eric Gordon is the only possible LT reducing salary on the Rockets. Nothing possible with Philly for that salary. LeVert on the Nets. nothing on GS. Don't shoot the messenger. All I was told was teams have inquired about using Snell to drop their LT penalty or get out of the LT altogether. Those are your only candidates unless its a different player from us. 8 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member BangHolman Posted December 2, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, thecampster said: Snell's base salary is $12.178 million. Any trade to lower someone else's tax or get them out of the LT altogether would be for a player making 17.2 million or less but more than Snell. There is no person on the Bucks who fits this criteria. DeJounte Murray or Rudy Gay on the Spurs would fit. Only Marcus Morris' salary or Patrick Beverly would do anything for the Clippers and it ain't much. Eric Gordon is the only possible LT reducing salary on the Rockets. Nothing possible with Philly for that salary. LeVert on the Nets. nothing on GS. Don't shoot the messenger. All I was told was teams have inquired about using Snell to drop their LT penalty or get out of the LT altogether. Those are your only candidates unless its a different player from us. Obviously Murray and Levert would be the most intriguing options, but I don't see how their presence doesn't hurt Huerter, Hunter, and Cam's development after the Bogi, Gallo, and Dunn additions. I'd rather let those guys get the run and continue their development, In this case, Rudy makes the most sense as a vet back-up 3/4 and his $14m expiring gives us a little more 2021 space. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NBASupes Posted December 2, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Gray Mule said: STOP IT ! Seems that, last season, the Hawks couldn't. Things had to get better. Defense? Hawks defense is expected to be much improved. Hawks offense is expected to be improved. Someone has said that Atlanta has not finished building this season's team. That there may be another deal out there that the Hawks will be a part of. Rumor has it that some NBA teams have not completed their roster, having open spots to fill. Supes, have you heard any rumors? Is there any smoke coming out of the Hawk camp? So much has now happened so fast, can we really expect anything else to happen?? There is no rumors other than they are getting close to an agreement with JC on an ext. I am hearing it's suppose to be reasonable for both parties. I wish I knew the terms. He couldn't get them and that's normal. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted December 2, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 20 minutes ago, NBASupes said: There is no rumors other than they are getting close to an agreement with JC on an ext. I am hearing it's suppose to be reasonable for both parties. I wish I knew the terms. He couldn't get them and that's normal. Something describable as "reasonable for both parties" sounds great to me. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 Alright @NBASupes and @thecampster, I appreciate all the good sourcing, but let's get to the GOSSIP. Do you guys have any insight you can share on this? https://theathletic.com/2222210/?source=twitterhq Kawhi, chemistry and a failed Clippers title run: Inside the issue that defines 2021 Quote “How do you ever build a strong team with that shit going on?” one team source said. “I thought from the beginning, ‘We’re doomed. Kawhi wants too much special treatment.’” 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted December 2, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, NBASupes said: There is no rumors other than they are getting close to an agreement with JC on an ext. I am hearing it's suppose to be reasonable for both parties. I wish I knew the terms. He couldn't get them and that's normal. This is great news. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted December 2, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 I was just reading this stuff. I expect stars to get preferential treatment but this is crazy and it went overboard, but these especially:• Leonard and George had power over the team’s practice and travel schedule, leading teammates to believe Leonard canceled multiple practices.• Leonard was allowed to live in San Diego and commute from there, which often made him late for team flights.• Not only did they sit out games entirely, but also at times they accepted or declined playing time in the moment. 1 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted December 2, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: I was just reading this stuff. I expect stars to get preferential treatment but this is crazy and it went overboard, but these especially:• Leonard and George had power over the team’s practice and travel schedule, leading teammates to believe Leonard canceled multiple practices.• Leonard was allowed to live in San Diego and commute from there, which often made him late for team flights.• Not only did they sit out games entirely, but also at times they accepted or declined playing time in the moment. I believe it. You could tell that team had zero chemistry. I've got no faith they will contend this year. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 As people read through the utter disaster the Clippers' lockerroom was, keep in mind Doc Rivers' supposed strong suit as a coach. Because his strong suit sure ain't x's and o's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted December 2, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, kg01 said: As people read through the utter disaster the Clippers' lockerroom was, keep in mind Doc Rivers' supposed strong suit as a coach. Because his strong suit sure ain't x's and o's. Can't see T Lue doing much better though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 21 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: I was just reading this stuff. I expect stars to get preferential treatment but this is crazy and it went overboard, but these especially:• Leonard and George had power over the team’s practice and travel schedule, leading teammates to believe Leonard canceled multiple practices.• Leonard was allowed to live in San Diego and commute from there, which often made him late for team flights.• Not only did they sit out games entirely, but also at times they accepted or declined playing time in the moment. As bad as it sounds, they got things straighten out before the draft. Still shocked Trez walked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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