Popular Post kg01 Posted August 7, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Final_quest said: I have been going with how the Clippers beat the Jazz. Only a few teams can really punish you inside with bigs. Even Gobert was completely neutralized. You can’t put together a team designed to stop Giannis or Embiid. You should always focus on improving your style of play. Reactive signings are the worst. We sign someone like Javale McGee and Embiid is gonna put him on a poster anyways. I don't believe in building for one team. I feel like there's a shift back to teams emphasizing rebounding and attacking the mid-range. There are also multiple teams that can engulf teams with their size. Edited August 7, 2021 by kg01 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawksNWaffles Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 6 hours ago, Spud2nique said: I need that shirt. Badly. This where is where we got our CEO his shirt. https://www.etsy.com/listing/1039991407/john-collins-trolls-76ers-joel-embiid Fun fact, my CEO is at the bottom right of the shirt. He loved it lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 For @NBASupes and @thecampster any possibility Schlenk adds Millsap to that last spot? Anything new on that front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 6 hours ago, JTB said: For @NBASupes and @thecampster any possibility Schlenk adds Millsap to that last spot? Anything new on that front? Based on what Travis has told Jeff Schultz of the athletic, we are done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NBASupes Posted August 18, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 Hawks talk, Draft trades that almost happened or didn't, Cam Reddish, Ben Simmons, Damian Lillard, Bradley Beal, and what big move could be on the horizon. As far as the draft, we will start there. A lot of offers were made. I'll talk about the ones that was most serious. Toronto tired to move down with OKC and wanting a ton of future draft assets, OKC was declined. OKC did try to move up into the top 3 but didn't have the capital any of the teams were looking at to move down. Golden State and Atlanta was extremely close to a Cam Reddish/20 for #7 trade. Steph requested them to seriously look into Cam Reddish. GSW was close to pulling the trigger but financial reasons is why they didn't pull the deal at the end. Atlanta was targeting Jon Kuminga who was going to replace Cam Reddish. Which goes into Cam Reddish. Atlanta offered Cam Reddish to two teams and only two teams. GS for Kuminga and PHI for Ben Simmons. He was told the offer was Reddish/Gallo for Simmons with no draft assets involved. I was told this deal was considered not good enough from PHI or even close. I'll explain more about PHI later when covering Simmons. Atlanta also received two serious offers for Reddish from Cleveland and Detroit. Atlanta wanted a top 4 protected 2022 draft. They see that as a strong class for extremely talented wings. Both teams offer was top 10 with protections that could turn into two 2nds and Cleveland wanted to maintain the top 10 status which didn't interest Atlanta at all. As of right now, none of the Hawks are on the market. This was before the draft. I hate that it takes so long to find out the truth but it is what it is. Atlanta tried to move up to #9 with Sacramento to take Josh Primo but their offer which was 20/OKC 1st 2022/protected 1st 2022 was declined. Atlanta had the same offer out there for Charlotte who accepted it only if their guy was off the board which he wasn't so the deal fell through. Atlanta also tried to move up to #16 for Sengun with 20/OKC 1st back to OKC but was out bidded by HOU who traded two future lotto protected 1sts. Sacramento had an offer #9/Barnes/Haliburton available for Ben Simmons which was declined by PHI. SAC was the most aggressive on the Ben Simmons front. Charlotte was extremely aggressive trying to move down if their guy wasn't available but he was so they didn't. Indy had some offers for #13 but not the quality they were putting falsely out there. Atlanta never offered them Cam Reddish. While GS offered to do a pick swap of #14/Poole, it was never much more than that. It was minor to say the least. They never offered multiple 1sts. OKC had several offers for #16(Sengun) but HOU met their demands. The Knicks tried to move up with Charlotte and SAC but as Atlanta experienced, the cost was way too high with SAC and Charlotte was tough because they wanted assets galore and Bouknight slid. This turned the Knicks into sellers as they felt the meat of the draft was in the late 1st and early 2nd round. That's it on the draft. I did find out why Coop felt. This was an extremely deep PG class and many felt he was too raw and he might be too much of a risk. That said, many felt this PG class in general was extremely deep. Coop was hurt by not playing in the Combine game is what he was told. The combine game had a lot of impact on evaluators more than every before. Ben Simmons Simmons was aggressively pursued by SAC, MIN, CLE, TOR, ATL, POR, and LAL before they landed Westbrook. His market seems to be dying. Simmons wants out. All of this market talk is BS, he's open to going to Cleveland. Yes, Cleveland. PHI sees his value as Harden and everyone sees his value was top 50 player moreso in the range of what Porzingis pulled when traded from NY to DAL. SAC still has an offer out there which is now Hali/Barnes/2022 1st lightly protected for Simmons. SAC sees him as a versatile SF who has obvious flaws but they think he can get them into the playoffs. MIN had the most asset rich offer, he did not know if MIN is still in the Simmons market. They offered Rubio/Culver/a pick swap and multiple lightly protected 1sts for Simmons. This was what teams felt was by far the best offer for Simmons. PHI passed and said they need a centerpiece like KAT or Edwards and the addition of Russell instead of expirings. MIN quickly declined the altered package. MIN saw Simmons as a PF that would be a nice fit next to KAT and a part of their Russell/Edwards/KAT core. CLE offered a quickly declined package but teams thought it was fair. They offered Nance, Prince, and Sexton with a lightly protected 2022 1st for Simmons. The ability to get two good players like Nance and Sexton as well as a lightly protected 1st was highly valued people around my guy said but PHI declined and said they needed #3 overall for starters. The conversation was short. From what I hear, Cleveland is still highly interested in Simmons but the price they are willing to pay hasn't changed. They want PHI to meet them where they are at, not the other way around. They see him as a SF as SAC does. They really want a bigger wing but the cost is extremely high in their opinion. TOR had the most hilarious offer. FVV/OG/2022 protected 1st for Simmons. They see Simmons as fine in his current role as a PG. They are fine with him the way he is. PHI declined but one can't help but laugh at a Simmons/Trent Jr/Barnes/Siakam/Borcher lineup. BK has been revived! ATL offered Cam/Gallo for Simmons. Quickly declined. PHI wanted both Cam and Hunter as well as Okongwu and a pick which was more quickly declined. ATL sees Simmons as a Lamar Odom for the Lakers. An super generational 6th man who can play anywhere needed but they do not see him as a starter is what he was told. I did think about it and it made sense. No one currently is on the market right now from Atlanta. They are riding with the current squad. POR wanted Simmons for anyone on their roster not named Lillard or RoCo. Everyone else and their assets are fair game. Obviously, that was not appealing. PHI wanted to talk only about Lillard which POR had no interest in moving unless they can get Embiid. These two are miles apart. Don't think if Lillard asked out that PHI has a chance because they don't. They are rubbing each other the wrong way. POR is still interested in Simmons but NOT for Lillard. LA called and offered but it was quickly declined before the Russ deal was done and they offered if they would care for Dennis but PHI didn't. The teams most interested in Simmons are non-playoff teams. The playoffs teams didn't want him outside of Atlanta who wants to use him as a 6th man. The non-playoff teams wanted him but they don't have what PHI wants. I was told, PHI is overplaying their hand and will end up with less than what NY got for KP when it's all said and done. Dame Lillard He still wants to see changes but their really isn't much other there for what they have to offer. Dame is hoping they can eventually get a 2nd star but knows that's easier said than done. From what I was told, he's not going to ask out since POR FO is extremely transparent with him. Lillard has a lot of suitors. NY, NO, GS, DEN, and MIN are all interested and willing to pay a massive pay to get him. As I said with PHI, these two don't see each other as a trade fit. POR would love Simmons with their current core but PHI hates their pieces outside of Lillard and POR doesn't see Simmons being a centerpiece for Lillard AT ALL. It's unlikely Lillard is leaving POR is the latest he received. Bradley Beal While he would like them to make one more move, he was happy with the moves they made over the summer and is highly liking to resign for the supermax. The biggest move that I am hearing about that could happen is Ben Simmons to Cleveland, Minnesota, or Sacramento during the preseason or early part of the season. That's what Ben's team is working on and PHI knows time in not in the favor. The longer they don't see Lillard asking out, the less assumed leverage they have. Everyone thinks Simmons will be moved sooner than later as Simmons is done with PHI. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kg01 Posted August 18, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 Transcript of Beal's talks with WAS mgt about improving the team ... Mgt: "Yeah, we got a couple things we can do to impr..." Beal: "... but is supermax on the table still?" Mgt: "Well ... yeah? Ok, as I was sayi..." Beal: "I'm good." 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted August 18, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 33 minutes ago, NBASupes said: FVV/OG/2022 protected 1st for Simmons Why would Philly not take this? This would make them much better. Also feel like they should just trade Simmons for Ingram. Nola would be a horrible shooting team but they obviously don't want ingram anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, macdaddy said: Why would Philly not take this? This would make them much better. Also feel like they should just trade Simmons for Ingram. Nola would be a horrible shooting team but they obviously don't want ingram anymore. How's this obvious? Not arguing, just wondering. I'll save the arguing for later. I can imagine NOP re-committing to playing their young guns, including ThIngram, under their new coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 34 minutes ago, kg01 said: Transcript of Beal's talks with WAS mgt about improving the team ... Mgt: "Yeah, we got a couple things we can do to impr..." Beal: "... but is supermax on the table still?" Mgt: "Well ... yeah? Ok, as I was sayi..." Beal: "I'm good." Where does his girlfriend come in.. like she wouldn’t be at the head of the table during the meeting, comon now. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 minute ago, kg01 said: How's this obvious? Not arguing, just wondering. I'll save the arguing for later. I can imagine NOP re-committing to playing their young guns, including ThIngram, under their new coach. I’ll trade for Thingram and Pangos right now! Also, bring back Bruno! -unknown 2 minutes ago, kg01 said: How's this obvious? Not arguing, just wondering. I'll save the arguing for later. I can imagine NOP re-committing to playing their young guns, including ThIngram, under their new coach. You argue well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Spud2nique said: Where does his girlfriend come in.. like she wouldn’t be at the head of the table during the meeting, comon now. Yep, this is a turnover on my part. You can basically replace Beal's dialogue and attribute it to her. Beal is in the corner waiting to be told he can look up from the table. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 22 minutes ago, macdaddy said: Why would Philly not take this? This would make them much better. Also feel like they should just trade Simmons for Ingram. Nola would be a horrible shooting team but they obviously don't want ingram anymore. From my understanding, they want an upgrade for Simmons but no one sees Simmons being worth that outside of Philadelphia. On top of that, Rich Paul has been assessing Ben's value and it's clear to everyone that Ben wants out of Philadelphia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post REHawksFan Posted August 18, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 58 minutes ago, NBASupes said: Hawks talk, Draft trades that almost happened or didn't, Cam Reddish, Ben Simmons, Damian Lillard, Bradley Beal, and what big move could be on the horizon. As far as the draft, we will start there. A lot of offers were made. I'll talk about the ones that was most serious. Toronto tired to move down with OKC and wanting a ton of future draft assets, OKC was declined. OKC did try to move up into the top 3 but didn't have the capital any of the teams were looking at to move down. Golden State and Atlanta was extremely close to a Cam Reddish/20 for #7 trade. Steph requested them to seriously look into Cam Reddish. GSW was close to pulling the trigger but financial reasons is why they didn't pull the deal at the end. Atlanta was targeting Jon Kuminga who was going to replace Cam Reddish. Which goes into Cam Reddish. Atlanta offered Cam Reddish to two teams and only two teams. GS for Kuminga and PHI for Ben Simmons. He was told the offer was Reddish/Gallo for Simmons with no draft assets involved. I was told this deal was considered not good enough from PHI or even close. I'll explain more about PHI later when covering Simmons. Atlanta also received two serious offers for Reddish from Cleveland and Detroit. Atlanta wanted a top 4 protected 2022 draft. They see that as a strong class for extremely talented wings. Both teams offer was top 10 with protections that could turn into two 2nds and Cleveland wanted to maintain the top 10 status which didn't interest Atlanta at all. As of right now, none of the Hawks are on the market. This was before the draft. I hate that it takes so long to find out the truth but it is what it is. Atlanta tried to move up to #9 with Sacramento to take Josh Primo but their offer which was 20/OKC 1st 2022/protected 1st 2022 was declined. Atlanta had the same offer out there for Charlotte who accepted it only if their guy was off the board which he wasn't so the deal fell through. Atlanta also tried to move up to #16 for Sengun with 20/OKC 1st back to OKC but was out bidded by HOU who traded two future lotto protected 1sts. Sacramento had an offer #9/Barnes/Haliburton available for Ben Simmons which was declined by PHI. SAC was the most aggressive on the Ben Simmons front. Charlotte was extremely aggressive trying to move down if their guy wasn't available but he was so they didn't. Indy had some offers for #13 but not the quality they were putting falsely out there. Atlanta never offered them Cam Reddish. While GS offered to do a pick swap of #14/Poole, it was never much more than that. It was minor to say the least. They never offered multiple 1sts. OKC had several offers for #16(Sengun) but HOU met their demands. The Knicks tried to move up with Charlotte and SAC but as Atlanta experienced, the cost was way too high with SAC and Charlotte was tough because they wanted assets galore and Bouknight slid. This turned the Knicks into sellers as they felt the meat of the draft was in the late 1st and early 2nd round. That's it on the draft. I did find out why Coop felt. This was an extremely deep PG class and many felt he was too raw and he might be too much of a risk. That said, many felt this PG class in general was extremely deep. Coop was hurt by not playing in the Combine game is what he was told. The combine game had a lot of impact on evaluators more than every before. Ben Simmons Simmons was aggressively pursued by SAC, MIN, CLE, TOR, ATL, POR, and LAL before they landed Westbrook. His market seems to be dying. Simmons wants out. All of this market talk is BS, he's open to going to Cleveland. Yes, Cleveland. PHI sees his value as Harden and everyone sees his value was top 50 player moreso in the range of what Porzingis pulled when traded from NY to DAL. SAC still has an offer out there which is now Hali/Barnes/2022 1st lightly protected for Simmons. SAC sees him as a versatile SF who has obvious flaws but they think he can get them into the playoffs. MIN had the most asset rich offer, he did not know if MIN is still in the Simmons market. They offered Rubio/Culver/a pick swap and multiple lightly protected 1sts for Simmons. This was what teams felt was by far the best offer for Simmons. PHI passed and said they need a centerpiece like KAT or Edwards and the addition of Russell instead of expirings. MIN quickly declined the altered package. MIN saw Simmons as a PF that would be a nice fit next to KAT and a part of their Russell/Edwards/KAT core. CLE offered a quickly declined package but teams thought it was fair. They offered Nance, Prince, and Sexton with a lightly protected 2022 1st for Simmons. The ability to get two good players like Nance and Sexton as well as a lightly protected 1st was highly valued people around my guy said but PHI declined and said they needed #3 overall for starters. The conversation was short. From what I hear, Cleveland is still highly interested in Simmons but the price they are willing to pay hasn't changed. They want PHI to meet them where they are at, not the other way around. They see him as a SF as SAC does. They really want a bigger wing but the cost is extremely high in their opinion. TOR had the most hilarious offer. FVV/OG/2022 protected 1st for Simmons. They see Simmons as fine in his current role as a PG. They are fine with him the way he is. PHI declined but one can't help but laugh at a Simmons/Trent Jr/Barnes/Siakam/Borcher lineup. BK has been revived! ATL offered Cam/Gallo for Simmons. Quickly declined. PHI wanted both Cam and Hunter as well as Okongwu and a pick which was more quickly declined. ATL sees Simmons as a Lamar Odom for the Lakers. An super generational 6th man who can play anywhere needed but they do not see him as a starter is what he was told. I did think about it and it made sense. No one currently is on the market right now from Atlanta. They are riding with the current squad. POR wanted Simmons for anyone on their roster not named Lillard or RoCo. Everyone else and their assets are fair game. Obviously, that was not appealing. PHI wanted to talk only about Lillard which POR had no interest in moving unless they can get Embiid. These two are miles apart. Don't think if Lillard asked out that PHI has a chance because they don't. They are rubbing each other the wrong way. POR is still interested in Simmons but NOT for Lillard. LA called and offered but it was quickly declined before the Russ deal was done and they offered if they would care for Dennis but PHI didn't. The teams most interested in Simmons are non-playoff teams. The playoffs teams didn't want him outside of Atlanta who wants to use him as a 6th man. The non-playoff teams wanted him but they don't have what PHI wants. I was told, PHI is overplaying their hand and will end up with less than what NY got for KP when it's all said and done. Dame Lillard He still wants to see changes but their really isn't much other there for what they have to offer. Dame is hoping they can eventually get a 2nd star but knows that's easier said than done. From what I was told, he's not going to ask out since POR FO is extremely transparent with him. Lillard has a lot of suitors. NY, NO, GS, DEN, and MIN are all interested and willing to pay a massive pay to get him. As I said with PHI, these two don't see each other as a trade fit. POR would love Simmons with their current core but PHI hates their pieces outside of Lillard and POR doesn't see Simmons being a centerpiece for Lillard AT ALL. It's unlikely Lillard is leaving POR is the latest he received. Bradley Beal While he would like them to make one more move, he was happy with the moves they made over the summer and is highly liking to resign for the supermax. The biggest move that I am hearing about that could happen is Ben Simmons to Cleveland, Minnesota, or Sacramento during the preseason or early part of the season. That's what Ben's team is working on and PHI knows time in not in the favor. The longer they don't see Lillard asking out, the less assumed leverage they have. Everyone thinks Simmons will be moved sooner than later as Simmons is done with PHI. Thanks. That's good stuff. My comments: I'm glad the draft trades didn't work out for ATL. Happy with Jaylen and Coop. Simmons as a 6th man is interesting. Would hate to lose the shooting of Gallo, but Simmons is a pretty versatile player and I could handle it with him in a diminished role off the bench. Still happy to hear they are planning to run it back though. Would prefer that the Philly / Sacto trade does NOT happen. Don't particularly want to see Hali in Philly. Simmons to Cavs for Sexton is much more appealing to me as a Hawks fan Hard to see Dame asking out anytime soon, but stranger things have happened. I know I'm in the minority, but I just don't see Beal as a superstar guy. Certainly not worth the supermax contract. I think Wash is heading down the John Wall road all over again. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 minute ago, REHawksFan said: Thanks. That's good stuff. My comments: I'm glad the draft trades didn't work out for ATL. Happy with Jaylen and Coop. Simmons as a 6th man is interesting. Would hate to lose the shooting of Gallo, but Simmons is a pretty versatile player and I could handle it with him in a diminished role off the bench. Still happy to hear they are planning to run it back though. Would prefer that the Philly / Sacto trade does NOT happen. Don't particularly want to see Hali in Philly. Simmons to Cavs for Sexton is much more appealing to me as a Hawks fan Hard to see Dame asking out anytime soon, but stranger things have happened. I know I'm in the minority, but I just don't see Beal as a superstar guy. Certainly not worth the supermax contract. I think Wash is heading down the John Wall road all over again. 1. I've always stated the best TS moves are the ones he doesn't make. 2. I agree. I can understand why they offered now. 3. The Sacramento deal seems to be a beauty for PHI in my opinion. I actually think Toronto deal is the best on the table but Daryl is a dumbass. He better not wait till everyone pulls the good deals left off the table. They already got a couple of deals pulled off the table. 4. I agree. He's crying about things but Portland been great to him and he has full oversight. 5. Same and I am a Beal fan. I think the supermax is an overpay but the available superstar market is dead af. Just keeping it 100%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted August 18, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 While I wouldn't make the Cam/Gallo for Simmons trade personally, I figure there'd be As and A-pluses coming our way all around from the basketball media world. Is it plausible that we go into the season with Dame, Porzingis and Simmons... the departures of all three from their current teams having been a foregone conclusion not so long ago... all keeping their real estate agents at bay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 27 minutes ago, REHawksFan said: Thanks. That's good stuff. My comments: I'm glad the draft trades didn't work out for ATL. Happy with Jaylen and Coop. Simmons as a 6th man is interesting. Would hate to lose the shooting of Gallo, but Simmons is a pretty versatile player and I could handle it with him in a diminished role off the bench. Still happy to hear they are planning to run it back though. Would prefer that the Philly / Sacto trade does NOT happen. Don't particularly want to see Hali in Philly. Simmons to Cavs for Sexton is much more appealing to me as a Hawks fan Hard to see Dame asking out anytime soon, but stranger things have happened. I know I'm in the minority, but I just don't see Beal as a superstar guy. Certainly not worth the supermax contract. I think Wash is heading down the John Wall road all over again. Guy, you are decidedly not in the minority on Beal. As his numbers have increased, the 'Zards wins have decreased. I have no idea why he gets a pass on this. Only reason they made the playoffs is because of Westbrook who gets all the blame for losses. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NBASupes Posted August 18, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 (edited) There was something stated by my guy that I found to be odd. He stated, Cam saved himself rejoining Omar Wilkes. When Omar left Octagon for Klutch to run Klutch's Basketball Ops everyone left Octagon (Wilkes guys) for Klutch but Cam Reddish. This was a mistake for Cam. While Cam was in contact with the Hawk during the offseason last year. The replacement of Omar at Octagon just wasn't as committed to Cam. He did get Cam the workout with Steph but it was extremely light and Cam really didn't improve much based on what Atlanta felt he would have just staying in Atlanta. They really didn't like Cam's summer and the relationship TS had with his new agent was sour. Omar and TS has an elite relationship. Omar always delivers the goods. Omar knows how to communicate and invest in his clients. Atlanta loves Omar and because of that, has a tremendous relationship with Klutch. Cam saved his career rejoining Omar is what he was told. In fact, Atlanta took him off the market once they got word Omar was going to be Cam's agent. It doesn't help his previous agent was trying to steer Cam to GS to play with Steph. Octagon without Trae loyalty is to Steph. Klutch loyal is to his clients and Rich obviously to (Bron). Rich no longer runs BBall Ops for Klutch. He runs the entire company and still manages his clients like Bron and Simmons. Edited August 18, 2021 by NBASupes 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg#8 Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 56 minutes ago, NBASupes said: There was something stated by my guy that I found to be odd. He stated, Cam saved himself rejoining Omar Wilkes. When Omar left Octagon for Klutch to run Klutch's Basketball Ops everyone left Octagon (Wilkes guys) for Klutch but Cam Reddish. This was a mistake for Cam. While Cam was in contact with the Hawk during the offseason last year. The replacement of Omar at Octagon just wasn't as committed to Cam. He did get Cam the workout with Steph but it was extremely light and Cam really didn't improve much based on what Atlanta felt he would have just staying in Atlanta. They really didn't like Cam's summer and the relationship TS had with his new agent was sour. Omar and TS has an elite relationship. Omar always delivers the goods. Omar knows how to communicate and invest in his clients. Atlanta loves Omar and because of that, has a tremendous relationship with Klutch. Cam saved his career rejoining Omar is what he was told. In fact, Atlanta took him off the market once they got word Omar was going to be Cam's agent. It doesn't help his previous agent was trying to steer Cam to GS to play with Steph. Octagon without Trae loyalty is to Steph. Klutch loyal is to his clients and Rich obviously to (Bron). Rich no longer runs BBall Ops for Klutch. He runs the entire company and still manages his clients like Bron and Simmons. I can see all of this, especially considering you said Steph wanted them to trade for Cam. It all makes sense, these agencies have agendas a lot of times that we never hear about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said: I can see all of this, especially considering you said Steph wanted them to trade for Cam. It all makes sense, these agencies have agendas a lot of times that we never hear about. Yep, it didn't become real to Cam till the GS deal fell apart and Cleveland showed interest. At that point, it changed everything. Truth is, Cam should have left when everyone else did but he liked Octagon but Octagon has an agenda which came into fruition. Thankfully, Cam is back with Omar which is excellent for us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 @NBASupes any updates on the team selection of Jalen and how they feel about him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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