Premium Member Popular Post Atlantaholic Posted September 21, 2021 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 On 9/16/2021 at 12:34 PM, JayBirdHawk said: 2021 TRAINING CAMP ROSTER - 20 players (as at 09/16/21) PG: Trae Young, Delon Wright, Lou Williams, Sharife Cooper (2W)SG: Bogdan Bogdanovic, Kevin Huerter, Skylar Mays (2W), AJ Lawson (E10)SF: Deandre Hunter, Cameron Reddish, Solomon Hill, Timothe Luwawu- Cabborrot (UG)PF:John Collins, Danilo Gallinari, Jaylen Johnson C : Clint Capela, Gorgiu Dieng, Onyeka Okongwu, Johnny Hamilton (E10), Jahlil Okafor (UG) This is a roster. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted September 21, 2021 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, Atlantaholic said: This is a roster. Looks so sweet! Makes me grin when I see it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted September 21, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 Starters vs bench Trae/Bogi/Hunter/JC/CC vs Wright/Heurter/Cam/Gallo/Dieng Starters are better for sure but this would be a fun game to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) OFFICIAL TRAINING CAMP OPENING SOON !! Yes! Now, instead of counting the months or weeks we now count the days. I'm sure the Hawks have been running around, getting in shape. Dropping those excess pounds of fat. Coming into camp slick and ready to go. As a lesson learned, Spellman failed this test as a Hawk. Too bad. I liked him. With 20 warm bodies to keep busy, coach and all his assistants will be busy beavers in the coming days leading up to that 1st exhibition game. I believe they plan to have all pre season games on TV. The question remains, which Atlanta team reaches the top first. The Dream has failed this season. The Falcons have yet to win a game in this young season and they are in rebuild. Braves are hanging on to their 1st spot but are in a struggle. Soccer team is a no, no. This currently leaves the Hawks. They left us breathless in the playoffs last season, tied for 3rd. We believe we are better. Talking heads do not believe but we do. Waiting! Ready for action! GO ATL HAWKS !! Edited September 21, 2021 by Gray Mule 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg#8 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 Decent preview from non-Hawks fans. A couple of points that I dont agree with but that some posters on here have mentioned before: They see Dre's best fit as a PF long term They believe Bogi would be better suited off the bench They think Cooper should get regular minutes at backup PG sooner than later. They admire our depth but consider it to be a problem going forward They say Trae is merely an All Star level guy as opposed to MVP level guy (like Luka) 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Premium Member sturt Posted September 21, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 48 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said: 1 They see Dre's best fit as a PF long term 2 They believe Bogi would be better suited off the bench 3 They think Cooper should get regular minutes at backup PG sooner than later. 4 They admire our depth but consider it to be a problem going forward 5 They say Trae is merely an All Star level guy as opposed to MVP level guy (like Luka) 1 - If "long-term" means "when he is 27 or 28".... yes, that's altogether reasonable. He can be another Paul Millsap, and maybe even better. 2 - I've seen Bogi off the bench, albeit small sample size. Prefer Bogi starting, and getting synched up with the rest of the backcourt immediately 3 - If "sooner than later" means "as soon as 2022-23," maybe. Getting drunk on summer league and making significant PT decisions is not wise. Give it time. The things that made him the 12th PG selected in the draft didn't magically vanish just because he had some impressive minutes against SL competition. 4 - Of course they would. Too many talk about 2021-22 as-if we should just skip it and 2022-23, and make roster decisions as-if it's 2023-24 already. 5 - I'm slow to give anyone, including Luka, "MVP level guy" status until it's actually happened. And in that vein. It remains a very viable possibility that Luka ends up with a reputation for being one of the best all-around players ever, yet counterintuitively, whose DAL teams boasted no championships, ostensibly because his teams became too Luka-centric to ever get to that level. If he ever earns an MVP or a championship, it could be that it's only after he embraces his inner ringbrat and joins the ringbrat brotherhood. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg#8 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, sturt said: And in that vein. It remains a very viable possibility that Luka ends up with a reputation for being one of the best all-around players ever, yet counterintuitively, whose DAL teams boasted no championships, ostensibly because his teams became too Luka-centric to ever get to that level. They did drag the Mavs for not building around him the way we did Trae. They were very complementary of our front office, but it was also a built in scapegoat by saying Trae has the better team and that's why Trae had better playoff success. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg#8 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 19 minutes ago, sturt said: 3 - If "sooner than later" means "as soon as 2022-23," maybe. Getting drunk on summer league and making significant PT decisions is not wise. Give it time. The things that made him the 12th PG selected in the draft didn't magically vanish just because he had some impressive minutes against SL competition. Here was their logic: Hawks fans are so focused on competing right now, but we probably aren't going to win a title this year. We would be better off sacrificing a few wins by grooming Cooper now as the featured backup to Trae so that in 2-3 years when the team IS ready to play for a title, he will ready to go. They think we will regret not developing him in lieu of playing vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post JayBirdHawk Posted September 21, 2021 Author Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 25 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said: They did drag the Mavs for not building around him the way we did Trae. They were very complementary of our front office, but it was also a built in scapegoat by saying Trae has the better team and that's why Trae had better playoff success. Nope....they're not allowed to use that excuse. The Hawks weren't allowed to use this the 1st 2 years of Trae's career when our roster sucked monkey balls especially since we were deliberately tanking. 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted September 21, 2021 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 21 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said: Here was their logic: Hawks fans are so focused on competing right now, but we probably aren't going to win a title this year. We would be better off sacrificing a few wins by grooming Cooper now as the featured backup to Trae so that in 2-3 years when the team IS ready to play for a title, he will ready to go. They think we will regret not developing him in lieu of playing vets. I disagree - that's faulty logic. We may not ultimately win a title this year, but that should be the goal first and foremost. The objective is to maximize Trae and give him the best possible chances EVERY year. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg#8 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 51 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Nope....they're not allowed to use that excuse. The Hawks weren't allowed to use this the 1st 2 years of Trae's career when our roster sucked monkey balls especially since we were deliberately tanking. Most definitely. Amnesia is real amongst the talking heads. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted September 21, 2021 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 1. How much better will Trae Young get? 2. Can De’Andre Hunter continue to look as good as he did? 3. Is this the year Cam Reddish emerges? 4. Will the Hawks lock in Kevin Huerter to a new deal? 5. What’s the next stage of development for John Collins? 6. Can Bogdan Bogdanovic be one of the five best 3-point shooters? 7. Can Clint Capela be just as dominant defensively? 8. How will Jalen Johnson look alongside other pros? 9. Who makes sense to fill the 15th roster spot? 10. How will the Hawks handle high expectations? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moderators Popular Post macdaddy Posted September 22, 2021 Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 I'm going to answer them. 1. How much better will Trae Young get? He will continue to improve mentally. He's done it every step of the way and already has a mastery of the offensive end that few can keep up with. His mid range game and floaters are going to be devastating this year. 2. Can De’Andre Hunter continue to look as good as he did? Yes if he is injury free. 3. Is this the year Cam Reddish emerges? Yes. For sure 4. Will the Hawks lock in Kevin Huerter to a new deal? No 5. What’s the next stage of development for John Collins? JC is who is which is damn good. Defense is probably the big improvement to make 6. Can Bogdan Bogdanovic be one of the five best 3-point shooters? Yes 7. Can Clint Capela be just as dominant defensively? Yes. 8. How will Jalen Johnson look alongside other pros? Good. Folks will get frustrated with the lack of playing time for him i think. 9. Who makes sense to fill the 15th roster spot? I don't know. Okafor i guess 10. How will the Hawks handle high expectations? They aren't scared of nuthin. That's the beauty of having guys all in similar stages of their careers and a few vets like Lou and Solo who don't have easily bruised egos. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 11 hours ago, terrell said: Ya sure, JJ gets all these likes but the second Spud throws up a pic it’s immediately removed. 4 minutes ago, macdaddy said: I'm going to answer them. We’re behind you aqua boy!!!!!! GET…TEEEMMMMMMMM!!! Reeeerrrr! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted September 22, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 57 minutes ago, Spud2nique said: Ya sure, JJ gets all these likes but the second Spud throws up a pic it’s immediately removed. That's because it ruined our most fun running gag 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kg01 Posted September 22, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 13 hours ago, terrell said: Heeey, who photoshopped that dude's head on my body? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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