bleachkit Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 2 hours ago, terrell said: This also works on trade machine.. For whoever liked CJ and Ben.. lol Hawks Get: B. Simmons CJ McCollum 2 - Second Round Picks (from whoever) Sixers Get: John Collins D. Gallinari E. Bledsoe 2 First Round Picks (from Hawks) Blazers Get: T. Harris Bogi Jalen Johnson 1 lottery protected First Round pick (from Hawks) I like it. That's actually a viable trade with believable outcomes for all teams. Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted February 8, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 Just now, bleachkit said: I like it. That's actually a viable trade with believable outcomes for all teams. Good job. It actually isn't a bad trade. I still would not want CJ though. Even with Ben on the team we would have a starting backcourt that couldn't defend. You can't win in the playoffs with that. Hell, with how much the East has improved you might not MAKE the playoffs with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sothron said: It actually isn't a bad trade. I still would not want CJ though. Even with Ben on the team we would have a starting backcourt that couldn't defend. You can't win in the playoffs with that. Hell, with how much the East has improved you might not MAKE the playoffs with that. OK but CJ can flat out get buckets.Legit number 2 scorer. He's not as nearly streaky as Bogi. He can flat out get buckets most every night. Has never averaged less than 20 PPG in a season and career 40% from three. That doesnt grow on trees. Then you add what Ben Simmons brings with his elite defense and playmaking. I'm gonna have to roll the dice on that trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted February 8, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, bleachkit said: OK but CJ can flat out get buckets.Legit number 2 scorer. He's not as nearly streaky as Bogi. He can flat out get buckets most every night. Has never averaged less than 20 PPG in a season and career 40% from three. That doesnt grow on trees. Then you add what Ben Simmons brings with his elite defense and playmaking. I'm gonna have to roll the dice on that trade. We would give up more points than we can score. CJ can't defend his position and has never been able to do it. You can hide one guy on defense but not two. I agree that CJ can score buckets which is why he's still in the NBA but his defense is terrible. We've already seen what a CJ/offensive PG that can't defend backcourt can do. I don't want to repeat that with an older and slower CJ in Atlanta. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Sothron said: We would give up more points than we can score. CJ can't defend his position and has never been able to do it. You can hide one guy on defense but not two. I agree that CJ can score buckets which is why he's still in the NBA but his defense is terrible. We've already seen what a CJ/offensive PG that can't defend backcourt can do. I don't want to repeat that with an older and slower CJ in Atlanta. Ok but we are getting Ben Simmons in this trade. One of the most versatile and gifted defenders in the NBA. Have CJ come off the bench then. No way can you say no to this trade. Edited February 8, 2022 by bleachkit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted February 8, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, bleachkit said: Ok but we are getting Ben Simmons in this trade. One of the most versatile and gifted defenders in the NBA. Have CJ come off the bench then. No way can you say no to this trade. I'm in it only for the Ben part of the trade. I truly do believe Trae/Ben would terrorize the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 Just now, Sothron said: I'm in it only for the Ben part of the trade. I truly do believe Trae/Ben would terrorize the NBA. This trade makes sense for Philly because they get a really nice player in John Collins, but they also find a taker for Harris's contract. Now they have cap space to sign Harden if he opts out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 2 hours ago, bleachkit said: Has never averaged less than 20 PPG in a season False. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member HawkingAwesome Posted February 8, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 Id rather have herschel Walker than McCollum and Simmons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Spud2nique said: False. Im talking about recently Spud, Jesus Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_dirt Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 Hey y'all... On this day: In 1986, Atlanta Hawks player Spud Webb won the NBA slam dunk contest. At 5’7”, Webb was one of the sport’s shortest players, but still bested his 6’8” teammate and 1985 winner Dominique Wilkins. https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/spud-webb-wins-dunk-contest 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 3 hours ago, HawkingAwesome said: Id rather have herschel Walker than McCollum and Simmons Yikes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 7 hours ago, Sothron said: We would give up more points than we can score. CJ can't defend his position and has never been able to do it. You can hide one guy on defense but not two. I agree that CJ can score buckets which is why he's still in the NBA but his defense is terrible. We've already seen what a CJ/offensive PG that can't defend backcourt can do. I don't want to repeat that with an older and slower CJ in Atlanta. Not disagreeing with you.. But is he any worse than Huerter? lol... Guards blow by Kev like he's stuck in mud... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 CJ McCollum joining the hawks does not help them reach the ultimate goal. It just helps them get to the playoffs (if even that cause they won't stop anybody). It is a horrible move and one that gets you stuck in mediocrity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mikey said: CJ McCollum joining the hawks does not help them reach the ultimate goal. It just helps them get to the playoffs (if even that cause they won't stop anybody). It is a horrible move and one that gets you stuck in mediocrity Well I'd rather have a guy like Gary Trent Jr, Dillon Brooks, or Desmond Bane(who I mocked to the Hawks in a trade down w Celtics.), but unfortunately neither are available.. lol Edited February 8, 2022 by terrell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted February 8, 2022 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 11 hours ago, terrell said: This also works on trade machine.. For whoever liked CJ and Ben.. lol Hawks Get: B. Simmons CJ McCollum 2 - Second Round Picks (from whoever) Sixers Get: John Collins D. Gallinari E. Bledsoe 2 First Round Picks (from Hawks) Blazers Get: T. Harris Bogi Jalen Johnson 1 lottery protected First Round pick (from Hawks) Collins, Gallo, Bogi, Jalen and 3 1st round picks??? That's an overpay it totality. McCulum is a negative contract. Portland is trying to cut salary for next season why would they want Harris an even worse contract than McCullum and Bogi? That's an additional $19 million in guarantees for next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted February 8, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 I know Lou has said he doesn't want to go anywhere but his injuries last few games have seemed pretty random. I wonder if he's interested if he goes to a real contender. This year it's harder to say who that is though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 11 hours ago, terrell said: Hornets are in the lottery right now.. We might not get that fake 1st this season.... And that is better. We want that pick next year where the draft may be deeper and it has less protections. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 1 hour ago, macdaddy said: I wonder if he's interested if he goes to a real contender. This year it's harder to say who that is though. When we stand pat, he will have gone to a true contender! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 Satoransky moved a 2nd time. Feb. 9: Jazz acquire players in a three-team trade Utah Jazz get:Nickeil Alexander-WalkerJuancho Hernangomez San Antonio Spurs get:Tomas Satoransky Second-round pick Portland Trail Blazers get:Joe InglesElijah Hughes Second-round pick also Miami Heat get 2026 second-round pick Oklahoma City Thunder get: KZ Okpala 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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