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1 hour ago, Watchman said:

It will increase tremendously.  Other teams probably have enough sense to use someone like JC rather than sending him to stand in the corner a wait for a three point opportunity.

I think it depends.  He hasn't exactly exploded and carried the team in his average game without Trae.  I'm assuming nobody thinks Trae is negatively affecting his block or rebound numbers so focusing purely on points.

Here are his games the last two years without Trae:

Orlando:  28 points

Philly: 17 points

Knicks: 20 points

Bucks: 30 points

Jazz: 17 points

Heat: 20 points

Bucks: 18 points

Pistons: 14 points

Philly: 21 points

Bucks: 4 points

Bucks: 19 points

That is an average of 18.9 points per game.  JC averaged 17.6 points last year and 17.2 this year so I would hesitate to call that a "tremendous increase" especially when your FG% drops in those games.

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3 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

Is JC a top 40 player?

no.    top 40 players can create their own offense (unless they do something else exceptionally like Gobert's defense)

 

 

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14 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

Is JC a top 40 player?

Per Sportsnaut, no!  But neither is Ben Simmons (I believe he's closer to 25-30 range).

 

https://sportsnaut.com/best-nba-players-right-now/

 

50. Jerami Grant, forward, Detroit Pistons

49. Gordon Hayward, forward, Charlotte Hornets

48. Christian Wood, center, Houston Rockets

47. Kyle Lowry, Miami Heat

46. Pascal Siakam, Toronto Raptors

45. Miles Bridges, Charlotte Hornets

44. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, guard, Oklahoma City Thunder

43. Ben Simmons, Philadelphia 76ers

After the Philadelphia 76ers were eliminated from the playoffs, Ben Simmons trade rumors were rampant after his dreadful performance against the Atlanta Hawks. Quotes from Doc Rivers and Joel Embiid only fueled the former All Star’s desire to be traded from the team leading to a holdout that he eventually ended. There has been a lot of drama surrounding these trade rumors including Simmons reporting to practice only to be kicked out for not participating. Sixers’ GM Daryl Morey has made it known that he will not just trade Ben for anyone saying he wants equitable compensation in return. The chances of Simmons stepping back on the court in a Sixers jersey seems unlikely but not impossible.

42. Karl-Anthony Towns, Minnesota Timberwolves

41. De’Aaron Fox, Sacramento Kings

40. Malcolm Brogdon, guard, Indiana Pacers

39. DeMar DeRozan, Chicago Bulls

38. C.J. McCollum, Portland Trail Blazers

37. Draymond Green, Golden State Warriors

36. Brandon Ingram, New Orleans Pelicans

35. Jrue Holiday, Milwaukee Bucks

34. Russell Westbrook, Los Angeles Lakers

33. Jamal Murray, Denver Nuggets

32. Klay Thompson, Golden State Warriors

31. Zion Williamson, New Orleans Pelicans

30. Kyrie Irving, Brooklyn Nets

29. LaMelo Ball, Charlotte Hornets

28. Rudy Gobert, Utah Jazz

27. Khris Middleton, Milwaukee Bucks

26. Ja Morant, Memphis Grizzlies

25. Nikola Vucevic, Chicago Bulls

24. Domantas Sabonis, Indiana Pacers

23. Jaylen Brown, Boston Celtics

22. Zach LaVine, Chicago Bulls

21. Bam Adebayo, Miami Heat

20. Anthony Davis, Los Angeles Lakers

19. Julius Randle, New York Knicks

18. Donovan Mitchell, Utah Jazz

17. Jayson Tatum, Boston Celtics

16. Damian Lillard, Portland Trail Blazers

15. James Harden, Brooklyn Nets

14. Paul George, Los Angeles Clippers

13. Jimmy Butler, Miami Heat

12. Bradley Beal, Washington Wizards

11. Devin Booker, Phoenix Suns

10. Chris Paul, Phoenix Suns

9. Trae Young, Atlanta Hawks

8. Joel Embiid, Philadelphia 76ers

7. Luka Doncic, Dallas Mavericks

6. LeBron James, Los Angeles Lakers

5. Kawhi Leonard, Los Angeles Clippers

4. Kevin Durant, Brooklyn Nets

3. Giannis Antetokounmpo, Milwaukee Bucks

2. Nikola Jokic, Denver Nuggets

1. Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors

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This feels like tampering to me?

 

Daryl Morey: There are deals with the Kings that I think would work

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There has been a lot of talks recently about Simmons and the Kings, specifically when it comes to De’Aaron Fox, but there is no guarantee that a deal gets done despite Morey’s connection with Kings GM Monte McNair. Morey on that situation: I can tell you that for sure, there are deals with the Sacramento Kings that I think would work. Will those deals ever happen? I have no idea. Are there just trade deals with the Kings? Probably not. Is it multiple teams? Probably, but for sure there are deals that are possible that would go over our line.
 

This rumor is part of a storyline: 5 more rumors

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7 minutes ago, thecampster said:

This feels like tampering to me?

 

Daryl Morey: There are deals with the Kings that I think would work

i_16_c0_ec_ben-simmons.png?w=190

There has been a lot of talks recently about Simmons and the Kings, specifically when it comes to De’Aaron Fox, but there is no guarantee that a deal gets done despite Morey’s connection with Kings GM Monte McNair. Morey on that situation: I can tell you that for sure, there are deals with the Sacramento Kings that I think would work. Will those deals ever happen? I have no idea. Are there just trade deals with the Kings? Probably not. Is it multiple teams? Probably, but for sure there are deals that are possible that would go over our line.
 

This rumor is part of a storyline: 5 more rumors

Morey is trying to get other teams to bite. Hey if you don't up that offer Ben is going to the NBA wasteland of Sacramento...

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42 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

IF this is really the case, I don't see him playing up to his standard this season if at all.

it makes me lean to waiting to make that trade in the offseason but I don't think Philly can afford to wait. That could mean two ships sailing by in the night in terms of us trading for him.

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