My guy has talked around NBA circles of late

[HawkingAwesome]

Harrell to the Bobcats 

[AHF]

31 minutes ago, sturt said:

But it is doing it over and over again... that's exactly what it is... "over a larger sample of games"... that's kinda the point. And that when KCP has had big games, it's not been unusual over his career that his team wins those games.

 

That is ridiculous.  Ignoring how frequently someone does something misses the point entirely.

Fan 1:  "Hey, we landed this guy who nails 3pt shots over and over again!"

Fan 2:  "Fantastic - we need some outside firepower.  What is his 3pt%?"

Fan 1:  "11.7% and he hits 8 of them per season so over his 14 year career that is the definition of being an impact 3pt shooter because he has been doing it over and over again!"

Fan 2:  "-----"

 

By that standard, non-offensive players like Stacey Augmon were legit third options because it doesn't matter how infrequently it happened over his career "he did it over and over again" so we must want someone like that to be our third option right?  (Augmon had 76 20+ point games, almost the same number as KCP and since frequency doesn't matter they must be equally good scorers). 

How about Evan Turner and his 66 career 20+ point games?  He did it "over and over" again so he must be a good scorer too!

Maybe I've been too harsh on Marcus Smart and his elite offense since I've been looking at this all the wrong way.  

 

[JTB]

16 minutes ago, Sothron said:

I usually dismiss 95% of what you post as troll posting but I don't know if I can disagree with this. I wouldn't say we had trash at the guard spot but the year being written off...that's not really wrong. I think the emphasis on trying to do summer trades makes this year's Hawks a "just hope we can get into the playoffs" mentality versus "this team last year was two wins from the Finals, how do we get a superstar here" mentality.

They did try to get Simmons. Trae pushed for it. Travis tried. Morey would never trade him as long as he knew Harden was coming. Teams aren't having superstars fire sales. Dame and Beal would not work here for obvious reasons. KAT is happy in Minnesota and they finally have a playoff team around him. So the most likely star names are already traded or not coming here.

I know this sounds depressing but it is reality. The Hawks still don't have a second star to pair with Trae and no, JC is not that player. We still only have one true playmaker on the entire team. 

Definitely appreciate you, @thecampster, @NBASupes 

the struggle continues. We will probably be in the play in game this season. I will hold out hope for Ayton and pray the suns don’t change their mind on how much they value capela and his contract.

all in all Im not really hurt about any of it cause things could change. Simmons could be surprisingly terrible with KD and Kyrie and Brooklyn tries to swing him for shooters instead.

I will keep hope alive and hopefully this team staying pat will start winning games again .

[Spud2nique]

1 minute ago, GameTime said:

 

Trez always wanted to go home.

[Plainview1981]

3 minutes ago, Diesel said:

Two out of shape injury prone allstars...

Really 2hours and 38 minutes.  You know those deals that hit the desk at the last minute.

Bogi, Hunter and Cap are all three injury prone.

[Spud2nique]

Nassss right!!!

[gurpilo]

Washington had a 3 Head monster at C, they bet on Bryant and Gafford now

[Spud2nique]

1 minute ago, gurpilo said:

Gafford now

Thought u meant Hornets ya Wiz.

Edited February 10, 2022 by Spud2nique

[Diesel]

5 minutes ago, Plainview1981 said:

Bogi, Hunter and Cap are all three injury prone.

Neither are as vital as Harden or Embiid.

[Hawkmoor]

7 minutes ago, Diesel said:

All this Boo hooing because Harden went to the 76ers and Bkln got Simmons.

From my viewpoint... 2 EC teams just got weaker. 

We're not talking 2016 James Harden.  We're talking about stat padding, fat, hammy having James Harden.   The Hamstring was Harden's first NBA injury.   There's a mental aspect to this that I don't think many people have noticed.   Harden is not the same.   Plus he will be effected by the Trae Young Rules more than Trae will.  People say Pick and Roll with Embiid and Harden.  By the playoffs, it may be PNR with Maxey and Bassey. 

In Brooklyn...  Really.  How do you expect Brooklyn to be competitive when Kyrie is playing away and not at home?  I'll admit that they are stronger with shooters and defense but I don't know what Simmons + KD will look like.   KD's game usually mixes well with Alpha players who can shoot.  Think about it.  Defensively they will be much better but when they play Milwaukee in the playoffs, they may be swept. 

I like our team.   We just got to trust it. 

 

   On a side note,  the board is aware I wanted Kyrie.  With the right offer, Kyrie was there for the taking for the Hawks because of that situation with him not playing home games.  It wouldn't have effected him in Atlanta.  My 3 team trade had Kyrie and Claxton to Atlanta with the Nets receiving Dejuante Murray from the Spurs and Wright and Reddish from the Hawks.  The Spurs receiving Hunter, Huerter and Okongwu ( glad that didn't happen).  Harden might have wanted to stay depending on how a trade like that worked out.

[JayBirdHawk]

mentioned this guy for the Hawks earlier, oh well.

 

 

[AHF]

24 minutes ago, Plainview1981 said:

Funny enough, JJ is what the team needs right now.

Not Atlanta Hawks JJ but Phoenix Suns JJ would be a fantastic addition.

[marco102]

what the hell is going on?

 

[HawkItus]

Wow Porzingis to Wiz

 

[HawkingAwesome]

Kristaps for dinwiddie hory smokes

[JayBirdHawk]

Just now, marco102 said:

what the hell is going on?

 

did not see this one coming - at least not to the Wiz.  Dallas clearing salary.

[Spud2nique]

1 minute ago, marco102 said:

what the hell is going on?

 

the zingerrrrrr.

Are we getting Dumbwitty?

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[HawkingAwesome]

Luka wants out now? Trae for luka?

[AHF]

7 minutes ago, Hawkmoor said:

   On a side note,  the board is aware I wanted Kyrie.  With the right offer, Kyrie was there for the taking for the Hawks because of that situation with him not playing home games.  It wouldn't have effected him in Atlanta.  My 3 team trade had Kyrie and Claxton to Atlanta with the Nets receiving Dejuante Murray from the Spurs and Wright and Reddish from the Hawks.  The Spurs receiving Hunter, Huerter and Okongwu ( glad that didn't happen).  Harden might have wanted to stay depending on how a trade like that worked out.

I don't think Kyrie would ever be moved for a package like Murray, Wright and Reddish.  

I think there is a good argument to like the deals for both Philly and Brooklyn.  Brooklyn seems a like an absolute no-brainer for the long-term and short-term.  For Philly, it is all about the short-term.  They need to make the finals in the next couple seasons.