The cobbled together, stuff we held on to during the playoffs mega super rumor and team direction thread.

[NBASupes]

@thecampster, what do you think, your boy is a f***ing genius!

[NBASupes]

I get it now, basically we just gotta do a trade for the BYC like it's the PP. Now Ayton trade salary is 19 mil but his real salary is like 30.5 mil which will impact us which is why Gallo has to go as that matters. 

That said, we can do like Chicago did which is do a trade but really add pieces you want as a part of the deal but it's not what validated the deal. The deal has to be done within the range. Why Bogi or even a player like OG can be traded. But Atlanta can do a deal within a deal which includes Capela for Shamet and Saric. This might not appeal to Atlanta otherwise but it's really all a part of this massive deal. This is why Toronto also in high on Ayton. OG fits in his 19 million dollar BYC number. I get it now, this shit is like the poison pill. We just gotta be Morey like. That's all. 

Edited June 6, 2022 by NBASupes

[NBASupes]

https://apnews.com/article/sports-nba-chicago-bulls-san-antonio-spurs-f1df8f02bf03b24d8ac6a9794847a644

[gurpilo]

Probably there is no other opportunity in 6-8 years to pair a star C at the same age range with Trae, Hawks need to go all in on this. 

Pairing Ayton and Trae gives Atl the best chance to go for a ring. Keeping Hunter, JC and OO is a good fit. You just need a reasonable option at SG and a combo guard. You can get that from OKC. Bogi, Huerter, Capela, Gallo, are good players but just above average, if they need to go for Ayton, let's do It.

[kg01]

4 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

https://apnews.com/article/sports-nba-chicago-bulls-san-antonio-spurs-f1df8f02bf03b24d8ac6a9794847a644

I bet a buncha lurkers just posted this deal to their twitters claiming their sources say ....

[JayBirdHawk]

45 minutes ago, Diesel said:

It's my understanding, that the Suns would be good with him finding a RFA max deal and they would match it because it's less than if they were to give him a max.   It probably has something to do with how many max players that they can have too.

 

Phoenix can offer him the 'Designated' rookie tag which is 30% max if he reaches the threshold criteria - which they definitely won't.

The Phoenix regular max is 5 years, 25% of the cap with 8% raises each year.

Any other team max is 4 years, 25% of the cap with 5% raises each year.

[NBASupes]

4 minutes ago, gurpilo said:

Probably there is no other opportunity in 6-8 years to pair a star C at the same age range with Trae, Hawks need to go all in on this. 

Pairing Ayton and Trae gives Atl the best chance to go for a ring. Keeping Hunter, JC and OO is a good fit. You just need a reasonable option at SG and a combo guard. You can get that from OKC. Bogi, Huerter, Capela, Gallo, are good players but just above average, if they need to go for Ayton, let's do It.

Honestly, it's not that difficult. We can do it will no real issues. It's just gonna have to be a two part deal. Capela in one deal and Bogi or Kevin and picks in the other. 

[marco102]

2 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Honestly, it's not that difficult. We can do it will no real issues. It's just gonna have to be a two part deal. Capela in one deal and Bogi or Kevin and picks in the other. 

You can also send out Gallo to another team and be fine without losing Bogi or Kevin. 

[NBASupes]

What this does if we do a double trade is it gives PHX Bogi if he doesn't take his trade kicker which also f*cks the deal up, or Kevin who's probably the guy for Ayton. Kevin makes 14.5 million. This adds 14.5 million to PHX salary cap. Atlanta also trades Capela at 19.7. This adds all together 34.2 million to PHX cap. Saric and Shamet are 18.7 million. This saves PHX 18.7 million. 

Atlanta adds 49.2 million to their cap with Ayton, Shamet, and Saric which is three players. 

[JayBirdHawk]

47 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

If I recall, there was a lot of players in Lonzo SnT and Durant/DLo SnT. 

The DLo/Durant SnT involved looping in a 3rd team in Minny to take salary from Brooklyn since GSW couldn't. GSW also sent Iguodala and picks to Memphis to clear the needed salary.

Edit: trade details here...

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nba.com/news/reports-dangelo-russell-warriors-sign-trade%3famp=1

[NBASupes]

6 minutes ago, marco102 said:

You can also send out Gallo to another team and be fine without losing Bogi or Kevin. 

You gotta send out Gallo or cut him. Ayton adds 30.5 mil to the cap while removing 14.5 million. That's a massive amount and would hard cap us. Gallo has to go. Bogi trade kicker makes it impossible for him to be used unless he wants to go to PHX. 

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[NBASupes]

Just now, JayBirdHawk said:

The DLo/Durant SnT involved looping in a 3rd team in Minny to take salary from Brooklyn since GSW couldn't. GSW also sent Iguodala and picks to Memphis to clear the needed salary.

 

Hard cap purposes. I just read over it. GS actually got a TPE for Durant which they used to take on Russell but traded Iggy to cover for the hard cap of Russell.

[NBASupes]

It would be much better to trade Gallo now to OKC for Micic, Maledon, and Williams. Micic has no salary attached. Maledon and Williams are 4 million combined. Gives us 3 more players. Plus 16 which is 1 player. 

 

We have 9 players. Trade Gallo, 8. Add 2+1, 10 potentially 11, add 3, 13 potentially 14. This would cover us. All it adds is 54.2 million. Removes Kevin, Gallo, and Capela. The Hawks could look to trade Shamet to a 3rd team as well. 

[NBASupes]

2 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

It would be much better to trade Gallo now to OKC for Micic, Maledon, and Williams. Micic has no salary attached. Maledon and Williams are 4 million combined. Gives us 3 more players. Plus 16 which is 1 player. 

 

We have 9 players. Trade Gallo, 8. Add 2+1, 10 potentially 11, add 3, 13 potentially 14. This would cover us. All it adds is 54.2 million. Removes Kevin, Gallo, and Capela. The Hawks could look to trade Shamet to a 3rd team as well. 

@thecampster what would he our cap situation with these moves? Also, add 16th overall to the cap number

[JayBirdHawk]

8 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

It would be much better to trade Gallo now to OKC for Micic, Maledon, and Williams. Micic has no salary attached. Maledon and Williams are 4 million combined. Gives us 3 more players. Plus 16 which is 1 player. 

 

We have 9 players. Trade Gallo, 8. Add 2+1, 10 potentially 11, add 3, 13 potentially 14. This would cover us. All it adds is 54.2 million. Removes Kevin, Gallo, and Capela. The Hawks could look to trade Shamet to a 3rd team as well. 

Ta-daaa..... We definitely need a 3rd team to take salary from either us and/or the Suns 

[NBASupes]

10 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

It would be much better to trade Gallo now to OKC for Micic, Maledon, and Williams. Micic has no salary attached. Maledon and Williams are 4 million combined. Gives us 3 more players. Plus 16 which is 1 player. 

 

We have 9 players. Trade Gallo, 8. Add 2+1, 10 potentially 11, add 3, 13 potentially 14. This would cover us. All it adds is 54.2 million. Removes Kevin, Gallo, and Capela. The Hawks could look to trade Shamet to a 3rd team as well. 

So Kevin, Capela and Gallo is around 55 million. Saves us 800k from where we are today. Add 16th, 3.84 million, we can still be just under the SnT max. 

[marco102]

16 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

It would be much better to trade Gallo now to OKC for Micic, Maledon, and Williams. Micic has no salary attached. Maledon and Williams are 4 million combined. Gives us 3 more players. Plus 16 which is 1 player. 

 

We have 9 players. Trade Gallo, 8. Add 2+1, 10 potentially 11, add 3, 13 potentially 14. This would cover us. All it adds is 54.2 million. Removes Kevin, Gallo, and Capela. The Hawks could look to trade Shamet to a 3rd team as well. 

Why would the Hawks go that young and what center are we getting back?  Is this coupled with the Ayton trade?  Trade for Gobert? 

[NBASupes]

1 minute ago, marco102 said:

Why would the Hawks go that young and what center are we getting back?  Is this coupled with the Ayton trade?  Trade for Gobert? 

Potential Ayton deal. A Gobert deal will be a lot cheaper. 

Edited June 6, 2022 by NBASupes

[warcore]

50 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

We just gotta be Morey like. That's all. 

all we gotta do is be a douche? I don't think Travis has the balls

[NBASupes]

6 minutes ago, warcore said:

all we gotta do is be a douche? I don't think Travis has the balls

Morey is a genius at working trades