The Mega Super Rumor Thread (Part 2)

[Diesel]

23 minutes ago, theheroatl said:

What teams would have interest in trading JC for FRP right now…

Maybe...

JC to Pistons

Pistons sends SAS FRP... to go with 2 of our FRPs and prolly a swap of picks down the line.... and we get Murray.

 

[Diesel]

1 minute ago, Diesel said:

Maybe...

JC to Pistons

Pistons sends SAS FRP... to go with 2 of our FRPs and prolly a swap of picks down the line.... and we get Murray.

 

If this happened... Detroit would be a problem.

Bagley, JC, Bey, Ivey, Cade...

With Duren, Stewart, and Walker off the bench.

[Diesel]

IF the Hawks trade for Murray.

They should do a follow up trade to get Jonathan Isaac.  They should then let Isaac and JJ fight for the PF position. 

They should also look hard at Grant Golden in SL for the third C spot. 

[Final_quest]

7 hours ago, Sothron said:

Ressler is way more hands on that people think he is. I know I have stated this before. The decision to run the team back was mostly TS decision last year. We see how that turned out. Ressler literally has mandated to TS to have a better team next season going into the season. 

It is like a boss that occasionally looks over your shoulder to now he's literally sitting right behind  you watching you work. No trade is going to happen with the Hawks without Ressler signing off on it. Anyone that tells you differently is simply wrong.

My experience with CEOs is that they often have a huge ego, duh.  This can be good because average people don't dare to believe they can take over the world, they do.  Ressler wanted to fast track a rebuild, which we got Clint, Gallo, and Bogi for that purpose.  After experiencing the level of success he envisioned with an ECF run, he has no appetite to slow play this.  

Ressler is fuming mad because he thought he was at least set up for deep playoff runs, and if TS made the run it back call, his leash is short.  Sh*t rolls down hill and TS gave the players an ear full last year. 

Positively we are at least going to be aggressive and take a shot.  Negatively we could be making moves like the Nets with Garnett, Pierce, and Joe Johnson.  We've always asked for an owner who will at least spend the money and have a bigger vision.  To me this is better than ASG, who just wanted to stay under the luxury tax and make the playoffs.  

[kg01]

9 hours ago, NBASupes said:

You definitely on the block, I just submitted your name 10 minutes ago. I'll let you know when I find your replacement 

Per my sources, it's gonna take the squawk adding @hazer, @macdaddy and 6 unprotected 1sts to ship you out.

#SupesIsKyrie

[capstone21]

1 hour ago, Diesel said:

IF the Hawks trade for Murray.

They should do a follow up trade to get Jonathan Isaac.  They should then let Isaac and JJ fight for the PF position. 

They should also look hard at Grant Golden in SL for the third C spot. 

I would be good with Isaac.  If he is recovered he would be a solid defender at the 4.

[macdaddy]

15 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Per my sources, it's gonna take the squawk adding @hazer, @macdaddy and 6 unprotected 1sts to ship you out.

#SupesIsKyrie

That's is a huge haul!

[TheNorthCydeRises]

9 hours ago, NBASupes said:

You already know I think Okongwu is the best PF on this roster right now so that's a no brainer there and we aren't getting Tucker. He's joining his brother Harden. I would love to get Thad Young as Sturt says, that's a real steal of a vet. He still got game and he can fill the void Gallo leaving. 

I have zero faith in JJ getting serious minutes next year so 

Trae/DW

DM/Bogi

Hunter/Kev

Okongwu/Young

Capela/Biyombo 

The rest playing in College Park. 

 

I have no issue with this squad.  Good balance.  It's a must that Hunter be efficient as hell as a starter.  

With this group, I could see Trae - Dejounte - Bogi - Hunter - Capela finishing games.  

[NBASupes]

5 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

 

I have no issue with this squad.  Good balance.  It's a must that Hunter be efficient as hell as a starter.  

With this group, I could see Trae - Dejounte - Bogi - Hunter - Capela finishing games.  

Depending on what we need, if its offense and floor spacing, sure! 

[JeffS17]

9 hours ago, Sothron said:

I found it more interesting that the basketball guys (TS, Landry) want Murray and Ressler (the owner who has the only vote that counts) is more interested in KD.

This makes sense to me:

On 6/23/2022 at 5:15 PM, JeffS17 said:

Exactly -- it would be a $$$ move, not a winning basketball move.  I would love KD if we didn't have to mortgage our future for him.  It's too risky and the guy is getting old.... we'd have a 2 year window to make something happen and I hate feeling like my team is on a timer lol

Ressler saw how much the Nets org blew up from an absolute nothing team to in the media every single day.  It's a players league and KD has a massive following, and he's a polarizing player as seen on this board so he will always generate interest.

[NBASupes]

24 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Per my sources, it's gonna take the squawk adding @hazer, @macdaddy and 6 unprotected 1sts to ship you out.

#SupesIsKyrie

Not enough 1sts, I am on Hawksquawk untouchables list

Edited June 27, 2022 by NBASupes

[NBASupes]

4 hours ago, JTB said:

Lol well just an FYI…supes source and Soth source were hearing different things regarding both Ayton and apparently now Murray too. I trust both sources but until they confirm the same or near the same thing I am going to assume we are still in it for whatever targeted players.

the only player that both supes and Soth have confirmed that we are pretty much out on is Gobert. 

Very un-spurs like for their stars to act different from the laid back culture David Robinson, Duncan, Ginoboli, Parker and of course Pop built .

this is similar to Leonard though he wasn’t outspoken. Just my opinion. Spurs want stars to come in and shut up and just do their job…good luck with that in this era.

Had no clue he did that! That’s actually hilarious and kind of cool he wants to be here.

In my opinion I believe the Murray deal will get done soon as Resseler comes to the realization KD ain’t coming here! Then we can get the real show going with the hawks only sending out JC and two frp’s….I would be shocked if they are unable to find a 3rd team that wouldn’t want JC for a first rd pick!

I know it’s hard to complete 3 team trades but there’s got to be plenty of teams out there very willing to get involved to get JC if the main piece they’d be giving up from their side is a future frp!

I have no current info but the price tag that SA wanted is exceptionally high. 3 1sts and that's crazy. 

[Gray Mule]

Three ways?  Sacramento has made talk about Collins.  Could he go there for a 1st round pick?  We have an extra one next season.  We trade that pick, Collins and one of our future 1sts.  
The thing is, the better we become the less value our draft pick becomes.  Chances are, if we pull off this swap we will not be in the lottery when that pick conveys.

Edited June 27, 2022 by Gray Mule

[thecampster]

31 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Per my sources, it's gonna take the squawk adding @hazer, @macdaddy and 6 unprotected 1sts to ship you out.

#SupesIsKyrie

Whew, glad I had the right of refusal put into my Squawk contract for trades.

[AHF]

4 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

I have no current info but the price tag that SA wanted is exceptionally high. 3 1sts and that's crazy. 

I am a bit skeptical there is a player with Murray's 3 year WS/PER/RAPTOR, etc. numbers that got as many first round picks in a trade as the Spurs want for Murray.  Feels like they want the same price for a player who is less established than the comparables they would use.  If we are going to target Murray, I hope the team gets the protection we need on the picks and/or lower the number of picks to a reasonable level for a player with his track record.

[AHF]

9 hours ago, Sothron said:

Ressler is way more hands on that people think he is. I know I have stated this before. The decision to run the team back was mostly TS decision last year. We see how that turned out. Ressler literally has mandated to TS to have a better team next season going into the season. 

It is like a boss that occasionally looks over your shoulder to now he's literally sitting right behind  you watching you work. No trade is going to happen with the Hawks without Ressler signing off on it. Anyone that tells you differently is simply wrong.

He bought the team so he is entitled to do this if he wants.  But that isn't what I want from my owner.  You made your money being or becoming an expert in your area.  Your area wasn't scouting basketball talent.  Hire  your GM and let them run the show and fire them if you don't like what they are doing but don't interfere and give your GM directives on personnel moves.  

I guess I'm much more on board with an owner vetoing certain moves than I am insisting on them.  Like if TS wanted to give up JC, OO and 5 unprotected first round picks for KD and Ressler didn't want that then veto it but don't insist that TS go get KD if TS doesn't think that is a good idea.  Maybe this isn't a rationale distinction but for me I'm less offended by an owner taking a few cards out of his GM's hand but letting the GM play his hand how he wants given that than I am insisting that he make a play the GM doesn't want to make.

[TRW]

1 hour ago, Diesel said:

IF the Hawks trade for Murray.

They should do a follow up trade to get Jonathan Isaac.  They should then let Isaac and JJ fight for the PF position. 

They should also look hard at Grant Golden in SL for the third C spot. 

I agree Diesel. I believe Jonathan Isaac can and would be a good fit for us. He checks every box for me. He's 6-11 and long and can play both forward spots, is a great perimeter and interior defender, has a decent perimeter game and he has a very manageable contract. Can you imagine a defense with Isaac, Hunter, Murray, and Capela(Preferably Ayton). Orlando has some decisions to make. Their roster is too full and probably won't have enough spots for everybody. I can't see them not starting Banchero because he was the first pick and he's playing for a rebuilding team. With Wendell Carter, the Wagner Brothers, Chuma, Bol Bol, and Isaac. I believe they will lose Mo Bamba (restricted free agent) and Lopez. That's a lot of people, not counting Terrence Ross, and all those backcourt players. 

[NBASupes]

This is how RealGM feels about JC

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2206654

[JTB]

3 hours ago, theheroatl said:

What teams would have interest in trading JC for FRP right now…

I would think there would be plenty. It’s not like JC is some scrub. This is a good player.

1 hour ago, Final_quest said:

My experience with CEOs is that they often have a huge ego, duh.  This can be good because average people don't dare to believe they can take over the world, they do.  Ressler wanted to fast track a rebuild, which we got Clint, Gallo, and Bogi for that purpose.  After experiencing the level of success he envisioned with an ECF run, he has no appetite to slow play this.  

Ressler is fuming mad because he thought he was at least set up for deep playoff runs, and if TS made the run it back call, his leash is short.  Sh*t rolls down hill and TS gave the players an ear full last year. 

Positively we are at least going to be aggressive and take a shot.  Negatively we could be making moves like the Nets with Garnett, Pierce, and Joe Johnson.  We've always asked for an owner who will at least spend the money and have a bigger vision.  To me this is better than ASG, who just wanted to stay under the luxury tax and make the playoffs.  

Well said.

[Blunt91]

Is there any interest from the Hawks at going after Bobby Portis in free Agency?  If JC is traded I would rather have "crazy eyes" than PJ Tucker.