Let's start the controversy...

[Diesel]

 So here's the controversial question for the day...

Is OO a Bust?

 

I start by showing all the #6 picks over the last 10 years (Below)

Also, who was drafted after OO...

7	New Orleans	Killian Hayes	6-5	195	PG	France	Intl.
8	Memphis	Obi Toppin	6-9	220	PF	Dayton	So.
9	Dallas	Deni Avdija	6-9	210	SF	Israel	Intl.
10	Minnesota	Jalen Smith	6-10	220	PF	Maryland	So.
11	LA Lakers	Devin Vassell	6-7	200	SG	Florida St.	So.
12	Charlotte	Tyrese Haliburton	6-5	185	PG	Iowa St.	So.
13	Miami	Kira Lewis	6-3	170	PG	Alabama	So.
14	Sacramento	Aaron Nesmith	6-6	215	SG/SF	Vanderbilt	So.
15	Detroit	Cole Anthony	6-3	185	PG	North Carolina	Fr.
16	Orlando	Isaiah Stewart	6-8	245	PF/C	Washington	Fr.

 

	NAME		TEAM	YEAR	ROUND	PICK
	Bennedict Mathurin		Pacers	2022	1	6
	Josh Giddey		Thunder	2021	1	6
	Onyeka Okongwu		Hawks	2020	1	6
	Jarrett Culver		Suns	2019	1	6
	Mo Bamba		Magic	2018	1	6
	Jonathan Isaac		Magic	2017	1	6
	Buddy Hield		Pelicans	2016	1	6
	Willie Cauley-Stein		Kings	2015	1	6
	Marcus Smart		Celtics	2014	1	6
	Nerlens Noel		Pelicans	2013	1	6
	Damian Lillard		Trail Blazers	2012	1	6

[shakes]

I don't think he's a bust.  It was just a really terrible draft.  At least he's a rotation player.  Some of those guys drafted after him sure aren't.

 

And would the Hawks have drafted Haliburton even if they picked #12 instead of #6?  I doubt it.

[LucastheThird]

He's just fine for where he was drafted. Only a handful of All-stars and Superstars weren't projected to be that coming into the league. 

 

Most scouts saw him for what he is, a smaller defensive big who needs to develop a jump shot before they can be considered an option on offense. Nobody had him pegged as a future All-Star, which is ok. Plenty of players are never All-Stars. He's playing behind Clint Capela, one of the best Centers in the game, and John Collins. He will be getting more time to shine when one of them is unfortunately traded in a few weeks. 

[kg01]

He's fine but does need to be better.

Ax about Hunter ...... I've said too much, bye-eee. 

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, Diesel said:

 So here's the controversial question for the day...

Is OO a Bust?

 

I start by showing all the #6 picks over the last 10 years (Below)

Also, who was drafted after OO...

7	New Orleans	Killian Hayes	6-5	195	PG	France	Intl.
8	Memphis	Obi Toppin	6-9	220	PF	Dayton	So.
9	Dallas	Deni Avdija	6-9	210	SF	Israel	Intl.
10	Minnesota	Jalen Smith	6-10	220	PF	Maryland	So.
11	LA Lakers	Devin Vassell	6-7	200	SG	Florida St.	So.
12	Charlotte	Tyrese Haliburton	6-5	185	PG	Iowa St.	So.
13	Miami	Kira Lewis	6-3	170	PG	Alabama	So.
14	Sacramento	Aaron Nesmith	6-6	215	SG/SF	Vanderbilt	So.
15	Detroit	Cole Anthony	6-3	185	PG	North Carolina	Fr.
16	Orlando	Isaiah Stewart	6-8	245	PF/C	Washington	Fr.

 

	NAME		TEAM	YEAR	ROUND	PICK
	Bennedict Mathurin		Pacers	2022	1	6
	Josh Giddey		Thunder	2021	1	6
	Onyeka Okongwu		Hawks	2020	1	6
	Jarrett Culver		Suns	2019	1	6
	Mo Bamba		Magic	2018	1	6
	Jonathan Isaac		Magic	2017	1	6
	Buddy Hield		Pelicans	2016	1	6
	Willie Cauley-Stein		Kings	2015	1	6
	Marcus Smart		Celtics	2014	1	6
	Nerlens Noel		Pelicans	2013	1	6
	Damian Lillard		Trail Blazers	2012	1	6

@NBASupes now you can let Diesel know about that “submit” button. 

[JayBirdHawk]

What is this - is today 'talk bad about Hawks player day'.

First Bogi, now OO. Who's up next? 

[Spud2nique]

Just now, JayBirdHawk said:

First Bogi, now OO. Who's up next? 

I don’t like this ride …

 

Diesel at the controls.. ish gets wild 

I may end up puking  

[Atlantaholic]

18 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

What is this - is today 'talk bad about Hawks player day'.

First Bogi, now OO. Who's up next? 

We could be dropping names all day 

[Atlantaholic]

He's a solid bench player. Too small to be a full time C. I don't think it's a bad pick considering everyone else available. 

[BudBall]

It was just a terrible draft. He is a decent off the bench player, but we better not extend him to starter type money.

[shakes]

22 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

What is this - is today 'talk bad about Hawks player day'.

First Bogi, now OO. Who's up next? 

can we nominate people or is it a random draw?

[Wretch]

He's not a bust.  I'm still keeping an eye on Killian and Deni, but my preference would have been making a strong play to move up for Melo.  If that wasn't there, I would have preferred we trade the pick.  As for where we are now, I think he's a starting quality FC with some room to grow.  That's goodish for a #6 pick I guess?  

I've said it over and over again that I'm not interested in trading anyone on this team.  However, that was before I realized that we don't make basketball based decisions around here.  We'll ride with Nate into the play-in, if we're lucky, and we'll make a cost-saving move or two that are in the better interests of the company. 

In light of that, we're going nowhere fast.  Since winning isn't important, we should look to maximize the return on the assets we have.  Especially with the guys who can still be sold on potential.  Though, there's a limited window where you can dangle a player before the shine wears off.  We're getting close to that point with OO and maybe past that point with Hunter.  

Unfortunately, I don't think we'll do much of anything as it looks like we've saved a little "WLOC sauce" from previous regimes...

[Diesel]

2 hours ago, shakes said:

And would the Hawks have drafted Haliburton even if they picked #12 instead of #6?  I doubt it.

There was a lot of chatter about us taking Haliburton at that time.  Maybe some saw him in the DJ role?

[JayBirdHawk]

OO didn't like this thread, .

 

7-7, 8 rebounds, 1 st, 1 blk in the 1st quarter vs Indy.

[Wretch]

26 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

OO didn't like this thread, .

 

7-7, 8 rebounds, 1 st, 1 blk in the 1st quarter vs Indy.

And getting a side dish helping from Trae. But let the haters tell it... 

[Wretch]

10 hours ago, Wretch said:

He's not a bust.  I'm still keeping an eye on Killian and Deni, but my preference would have been making a strong play to move up for Melo.  If that wasn't there, I would have preferred we trade the pick.  As for where we are now, I think he's a starting quality FC with some room to grow.  That's goodish for a #6 pick I guess?  

I've said it over and over again that I'm not interested in trading anyone on this team.  However, that was before I realized that we don't make basketball based decisions around here.  We'll ride with Nate into the play-in, if we're lucky, and we'll make a cost-saving move or two that are in the better interests of the company. 

In light of that, we're going nowhere fast.  Since winning isn't important, we should look to maximize the return on the assets we have.  Especially with the guys who can still be sold on potential.  Though, there's a limited window where you can dangle a player before the shine wears off.  We're getting close to that point with OO and maybe past that point with Hunter.  

Unfortunately, I don't think we'll do much of anything as it looks like we've saved a little "WLOC sauce" from previous regimes...

@Spud2nique

[Diesel]

I'm glad that Me and His Mama could help motivate him.

 

[Spud2nique]

55 minutes ago, Diesel said:

I'm glad that Me and His Mama could help motivate him.

 

When the hell did you step into the Big O @sturt (ya I don’t care) fan club ?  The doormen didn’t say anyone was there? 

[Diesel]

13 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

When the hell did you step into the Big O @sturt (ya I don’t care) fan club ?  The doormen didn’t say anyone was there? 

I like Big O.  I just think he has a lot of simple things he needs to work on.    But if he can rebound the way he did tonight, we can win a few more games. 

 

[Spud2nique]

30 minutes ago, Diesel said:

I like Big O.  I just think he has a lot of simple things he needs to work on.    But if he can rebound the way he did tonight, we can win a few more games. 

 

Like a super charged undersized big heart monster from the continent of Africa. Yes sir.