Premium Member Popular Post JeffS17 Posted April 20, 2023 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 1 hour ago, REHawksFan said: Their conversion rate? DEAD ASS LAST at 17.5%. Think about that. They shooting 17.5% on WIDE OPEN 3s in the playoffs!! lol... it's about 40 attempts too. If we hit wide open threes at 40%, which is a very reasonable estimate, we'd have 27 more points over these two games. That would make the series competitive, especially if you consider these clanked threes are often leading to transition buckets. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REHawksFan Posted April 20, 2023 Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 1 hour ago, NBASupes said: We been bad at shooting all season, this shouldn't be a surprise Who said it was a surprise? I've been complaining about it all year and before the year started. I was told 3pt shots didn't mean anything and we just needed to play better defense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted April 20, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, JeffS17 said: lol... it's about 40 attempts too. If we hit wide open threes at 40%, which is a very reasonable estimate, we'd have 27 more points over these two games. That would make the series competitive, especially if you consider these clanked threes are often leading to transition buckets. I'm not even asking for 40%, I'd settle even for 33%........but 17.5% ...that has got to be historically bad, No. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REHawksFan Posted April 20, 2023 Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, JeffS17 said: lol... it's about 40 attempts too. If we hit wide open threes at 40%, which is a very reasonable estimate, we'd have 27 more points over these two games. That would make the series competitive, especially if you consider these clanked threes are often leading to transition buckets. Yep. They are 7-40 for the series on wide open 3s. It's almost incomprehensible. In the regular season they shot 38.4% from 3pt when considered wide open. That's not great by any means, but it's more than double what they are doing in the playoffs. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted April 20, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 1 minute ago, REHawksFan said: Yep. They are 7-40 for the series on wide open 3s. It's almost incomprehensible. In the regular season they shot 38.4% from 3pt when considered wide open. That's not great by any means, but it's more than double what they are doing in the playoffs. Tight sphincters. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REHawksFan Posted April 20, 2023 Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: I'm not even asking for 40%, I'd settle even for 33%........but 17.5% ...that has got to be historically bad, No. Last 10 playoff years, including this one, only 9 teams have been below 30%. And only 1 team below 20%, your Atlanta Hawks. Next lowest is Utah at 24% a few years ago. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post macdaddy Posted April 20, 2023 Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, REHawksFan said: Yep. They are 7-40 for the series on wide open 3s. It's almost incomprehensible. In the regular season they shot 38.4% from 3pt when considered wide open. That's not great by any means, but it's more than double what they are doing in the playoffs. But there are guys on this team that routinely fail to make big 3s when it matters most. That's been easy to see for a while. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REHawksFan Posted April 20, 2023 Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 Also, Boston has had 31 wide open 3s this series. They are shooting 48% on those. They've hit 15 over the two games. That's +8 or 24 points over the 2 games. We've lost by a combined 26 points. There's a ton of other factors that go into it, but if I'm Quin, I'm starting with guys just hitting open shots. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REHawksFan Posted April 20, 2023 Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, macdaddy said: But there are guys on this team that routinely fail to make big 3s when it matters most. That's been easy to see for a while. And that's why I've been harping on the lack of 3pt shooting since before the season started. It's a roster construction problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted April 20, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 49 minutes ago, REHawksFan said: Last 10 playoff years, including this one, only 9 teams have been below 30%. And only 1 team below 20%, your Atlanta Hawks. Next lowest is Utah at 24% a few years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted April 20, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 On 10/25/2022 at 12:48 PM, JayBirdHawk said: I'll be keeping watch all season. We can't be both low volume AND low percentages. AJ Griffin = 67% 3P% John Collins = 38% 3P% Everyone else under 37%...including Trae at 25%. Dre - 27% DJ - 35% JHol - 33% AHol - 25% JJ - 0% (0-3) C'mon Kyle....help them! On 4/7/2023 at 10:02 AM, JayBirdHawk said: UPDATE Time with 2 games left: Trae - 33.7% (37.7% for March and April)DJ - 34.5% Hunter - 35.1%JC - 28.8% (37.3% for March and April)AJ - 39.4% OO - 30% Bogi - 40.4% JJ - 28.6% Bey - 40.0% (Hawks only) 55 minutes ago, REHawksFan said: Last 10 playoff years, including this one, only 9 teams have been below 30%. And only 1 team below 20%, your Atlanta Hawks. Next lowest is Utah at 24% a few years ago. Struggle all season and now even worse in the playoffs! Sigh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REHawksFan Posted April 20, 2023 Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted April 20, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 1 hour ago, REHawksFan said: Who said it was a surprise? I've been complaining about it all year and before the year started. I was told 3pt shots didn't mean anything and we just needed to play better defense. Well, Nate certainly didn't care what analytics said about 3pt shooting. Trae took 610 3pts last year, 460 this year - that's a difference of 150. I was surprised by that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REHawksFan Posted April 20, 2023 Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Struggle all season and now even worse in the playoffs! Sigh! To be fair, it's not on low volume in the playoffs. SMH. It's high volume and ultra low %. 38.5 attempts per game in the playoffs. 30.5 attempts in the regular season. Issue is 10.8 makes in the regular season and 10.5 in the playoofs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_quest Posted April 20, 2023 Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Well, Nate certainly didn't care what analytics said about 3pt shooting. Trae took 610 3pts last year, 460 this year - that's a difference of 150. I was surprised by that. I noticed his best two years of 3p% were the years he shot the most. Last year we said we needed better and tougher defenders after the Miami series, and we should get rid of soft guys like Huerter and Gallo. I like that our ownership is aggressive, but I think they are earning a reputation of being reactionary vs building from their vision of the team. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted April 20, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, Final_quest said: I noticed his best two years of 3p% were the years he shot the most. Last year we said we needed better and tougher defenders after the Miami series, and we should get rid of soft guys like Huerter and Gallo. I like that our ownership is aggressive, but I think they are earning a reputation of being reactionary vs building from their vision of the team. I think there was an expectation that DJ, Dre and Justin would provide some level of resistance on the perimeter with some level of CONSISTENCY, but it has been hit or miss. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted April 20, 2023 Moderators Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, Final_quest said: I noticed his best two years of 3p% were the years he shot the most. Last year we said we needed better and tougher defenders after the Miami series, and we should get rid of soft guys like Huerter and Gallo. I like that our ownership is aggressive, but I think they are earning a reputation of being reactionary vs building from their vision of the team. Travis brought in vets at the right time in 2020 but it didn't appear to be working until we ditched LP. Cam gave us productive minutes too. The top 6 guys are the same as 2 years ago with the exception of swapping DJ and Kev. Then : This year's 7-11 in minutes per game is rough and inexperienced. And was really rough before Bey got here. Really Aaron played way more games than Justin but you get the picture. We didn't really build a solid team we just added DJ and hoped the young guys would take leaps. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted April 20, 2023 Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 2 hours ago, NBASupes said: We got four plus defenders. Is this one of those ( + ) is really a ( - ) integer type things? Who are the ( + ) defenders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheNorthCydeRises Posted April 20, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 2 hours ago, REHawksFan said: Last 10 playoff years, including this one, only 9 teams have been below 30%. And only 1 team below 20%, your Atlanta Hawks. Next lowest is Utah at 24% a few years ago. Utah a few years ago? Uh oh 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted April 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said: Is this one of those ( + ) is really a ( - ) integer type things? Who are the ( + ) defenders? Murray Hunter Collins Capela And that's just the starting lineup. Then we got A. Holiday and Okongwu. 6 in total. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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