Gray Mule Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 4 hours ago, Spud2nique said: I did better than that gramps! The prodigal son returned to church ️. I feel better now. More centered. Nicer. Holier. Good news! Proud of you!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JeffS17 Posted June 25, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 By the way, does anyone know the next date that will be a large impetus for trades? Free agency signings maybe? I know @thecampster had a post with all the key dates recently, but I suck at searching/finding older posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kg01 Posted June 25, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 23 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said: ....whaaaaattt!!! They gotta be lying on Morey. Honestly .... if the target was JoeLLLL-o, not Toby, I could see that being PHI's asking price. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted June 25, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 54 minutes ago, JeffS17 said: By the way, does anyone know the next date that will be a large impetus for trades? Free agency signings maybe? I know @thecampster had a post with all the key dates recently, but I suck at searching/finding older posts. End of this season is June 29th...so we may see some trades between now and then. F.A.F. (Free Agency Frenzy) begins June 30th at 6PM. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: End of this season is June 29th...so we may see some trades between now and then. F.A.F. (Free Agency Frenzy) begins June 30th at 6PM. Something happens inside of me I swear, I know you all feel it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Final_quest said: And people want our payroll to be one of the highest while mostly having average players. It feels like people care more about us paying the tax than having a roster and salaries that makes sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted June 26, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 The idea that James Harden will re-sign with Philadelphia in free agency rather than return to Houston for a second stint with the Rockets has gained momentum over the past week or two. – via Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com Draymond Green expected to remain in Golden State I continue to hear nothing but strong confidence emanating from the Bay Area that an agreement on a multi-year deal for Draymond Green to stay right where he’s always been is forthcoming. (A three-year deal, league sources say, is a popular current projection for the 33-year-old.) – via Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 hour ago, JeffS17 said: By the way, does anyone know the next date that will be a large impetus for trades? Free agency signings maybe? I know @thecampster had a post with all the key dates recently, but I suck at searching/finding older posts. https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2023/04/key-2023-nba-offseason-dates-deadlines.html June 29 Last day for decisions on player, team, and early termination options Note: Certain contracts will require earlier decisions. Last day for teams to make qualifying offers to players eligible for restricted free agency. June 30 Last official day of the 2022/23 NBA league year. Last day for players eligible for veteran extensions in 2022/23 to sign them. Teams can begin negotiating with free agents (5:00 pm CT). July 1 Official start of the 2023/24 NBA league year. Moratorium period begins. Restricted free agents can sign an offer sheet. Teams can begin signing players to rookie scale contracts, minimum salary contracts, and two-way contracts. Teams can begin exercising the third- or fourth-year team options for 2024/25 on rookie scale contracts. July 6 Moratorium period ends (11:01 am CT) Teams can begin officially signing players, extending players, and completing trades (11:01 am CT). The 24-hour period for matching an RFA offer sheet signed during the moratorium begins (11:01 am CT). July 7-17 Las Vegas Summer League. July 13 Last day for teams to unilaterally withdraw qualifying offers to restricted free agents. August 31 Last day for teams to waive players and apply the stretch provision to their 2023/24 salaries. September 5 Last day for teams to issue required tenders to unsigned second-round picks; those players become free agents on September 6 if not tendered. Late September (specific dates TBA) Training camps open. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JTB Posted June 26, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 So uhhhh is Hunter getting traded potentially? insiders 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JTB Posted June 26, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 Can we just get back to insider rumor’s please? What’s the latest? all the Trae vs Hunter back and forth got me loss on previous updates. We targeting Siakam still ? are we the mystery 3rd team for Ayton? what can our insiders let us know? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thecampster Posted June 26, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, JTB said: what can our insiders let us know? Most of the things discussed pre-draft are still on the table. There are advantages to some getting done before June 30, some to after June 30th....nothing worth really discussing, just advantages being in front of others, getting done first, lining up your ducks. All of the stories you see in the paper right now are "temperature checks". This is normal team OSINT for fan bases. You push articles through partner journalists to see how the fan base reacts. How the comments react, how message boards respond, private polls of season ticket holders. Works like this...post rumor mill you'll see journalists publish "proposed" or "rumored" trades. They'll include player names and sometimes multiple scenarios. People being people will sound off in the comments with "hell yah" or "I don't want that scrub". They'll pull in what they can get and determine how those changes would affect ticket sales, enthusiasm, etc. This survey of the fanbase pushes about 1/4 of trades over the finish line. A smidge of team thinking.....Only about 6-10 teams a year believe they can compete that year and only about 1/2 of teams think they can seriously compete the next 3 years. For everyone else, their moves are as much or more about tickets sales, tv ratings. Its a business. So they're pushing buttons to see if acquiring player X creates a buzz. That's what Indy is/was doing with DH. Seeing if acquiring him would give their fanbase hope, increase ticket sales. You can watch these articles and temperature check how teams feel about their own chances. If they're temperature checking their fanbase, they don't think they can compete this year or the next few but they still want your money. Baseball is notorious for this. Every time they acquire a player, are making a trade...billboards are up 12 hours later....its all planned for hype. Gotta get those ticket sales in before July when those same teams dump salary. As for "new" info. There won't be anything significant, different that draft night until right before July 6th when trades can be completed....usually beings about 3 days before. Edited June 26, 2023 by thecampster 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thecampster Posted June 26, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 Let me show you this in action see below. See the below, which shows the stories generated post draft. 3 teams actively discussed.....Detroit, Indy, Dallas. Also notice the words used. Detroit / Indy articles showing what a potential trade would look like. Dallas article explaining why they turned it down (damage control). This stuff is leaked to journalists with generic deal frameworks to see if the fanbase would be pro/against...ie. would it generate buzz. For teams not expecting to be top 8, this is their world...revenue generation. Now prior to the draft (6 days prior), I engaged with a member of the board (not the insider private thread) to tell them this was going on. see screenshot below. The conversation was much deeper than just this snippet and involved other stuff as well all of which came out before draft night. I held back info because I was pretty annoyed by the pushback from some members of the board. The Hunter conversation. I alluded last week to sitting on something and I talked with others on the board about this but before hiring Quinn, we almost blew it up and moved forward with Prunty. This is all related to the coach flare ups over playing time, Nate's system. Had we not hired Nate, we would have reloaded/rebuilt with Prunty (Prunty is not a name that attracts free agents though players are fond of him). Staying would have been Trae, OO, AJ, JJ and anyone we couldn't move for prospects. Schlenk was forced out over the team disconnect with Nate and most importantly, when Huerter was blowing up in Sacramento, it led to the Resslers needing to go in a different direction. Landry was hired for a rebuild, not a reload....Quinn changed that. I'm holding back a bit but you get the gist. The team has been reassessing ever since. Dallas almost bit on their Hunter deal but in the end couldn't pull the trigger. There were 3 frameworks with Dallas, 1 centered on CC, one on JC and 1 on DH. Dallas is afraid they're about to miss their window with Luka. Luka loves LA and wants that spotlight. Luka would take a move to NY in a heartbeat. Dallas is doing whatever they can to keep him happy. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted June 26, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 53 minutes ago, thecampster said: Schlenk was forced out over the team disconnect with Nate and most importantly, when Huerter was blowing up in Sacramento... Can you elaborate on the bolded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JeffS17 Posted June 26, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 hour ago, thecampster said: All of the stories you see in the paper right now are "temperature checks". This is normal team OSINT for fan bases. You push articles through partner journalists to see how the fan base reacts. How the comments react, how message boards respond, private polls of season ticket holders. I feel pretty strongly the Trae rumors last season were exactly this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Can you elaborate on the bolded? Not really. Basically, a series of things they lost confidence in the direction and Schlenk. Huerter was the last straw. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, NBASupes said: If you got questions for me, just wait till it's moved. I won't be responding. @kg01 save your questions for when it’s time. Thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted June 26, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 What this thread needs is a juicy forward-looking rumor. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted June 26, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 A new day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, sturt said: What this thread needs is a juicy forward-looking rumor. It's all matter of which vet we will sell for .50 cents on the dollar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted June 26, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 2 hours ago, thecampster said: I talked with others on the board about this but before hiring Quinn, we almost blew it up and moved forward with Prunty. This is all related to the coach flare ups over playing time, Nate's system. Had we not hired Nate, we would have reloaded/rebuilt with Prunty (Prunty is not a name that attracts free agents though players are fond of him). Staying would have been Trae, OO, AJ, JJ and anyone we couldn't move for prospects. Nobody gonna weigh in on this juicy bit of rumored gossip instead of the other drivel? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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