NBASupes Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 8 minutes ago, therealist said: genuinely curious as to what you think JJ's limitations are on the wing. i've always hoped he could develop into more of a switchable big wing than just a 4. is it his inability to guard opposing wing players that's holding him back? Man defense Defending combination moves Moving his feet in isolation situation. He's fine against Giannis who's a straight line driver but anyone with skill will crush him. He's pretty much like Smoove. Help side defense, can defend in space, capable when switching but don't want that man defending 1s to 3s and skilled big wings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 1 minute ago, KB21 said: He's going to have to get A LOT better off the dribble and as a playmaker to meet that expectation. Agreed. I don't think he looks like a potential star at all but I like the players we does look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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REHawksFan Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said: There was an insider post regarding trading #1 for #4 and #8...then flipping 8 in a trade to acquire Herb. Thanks. I guess I missed that or just glossed over the pick swap. I thought @Sothron specifically said the trades were separate. DJM/Hunter/Clint for Ingram/Herb/Nance with no picks included. That's what I've been operating under as the framework for the deal. If that's not accurate, ignore everything I've said. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted June 7 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 7 C'mon on down 'seasoned center" Clint Capela: Quote James L. Edwards III: The Pistons need to find out if Duren’s struggles defensively are due to his inexperience, the team’s bad situation or if it is an area they’re worried won’t get much better. Duren has a lot of potential — I’d be afraid to trade him — but that potential won’t be reached until he turns a corner defensively. It wouldn’t surprise me if Detroit elected to bring in a more seasoned center in order to lessen Duren’s workload and allow him to develop without the stakes being so high. – via New York Times 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted June 7 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 7 1 minute ago, REHawksFan said: Thanks. I guess I missed that or just glossed over the pick swap. I thought @Sothron specifically said the trades were separate. DJM/Hunter/Clint for Ingram/Herb/Nance with no picks included. That's what I've been operating under as the framework for the deal. If that's not accurate, ignore everything I've said. LOL Not sure if it was Soth or Mikey or Camp who made reference to to 1 for 4 & 8. Lots of stuff to weed thru and sometimes things may get crossmatched. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 11 minutes ago, REHawksFan said: Thanks. I guess I missed that or just glossed over the pick swap. I thought @Sothron specifically said the trades were separate. DJM/Hunter/Clint for Ingram/Herb/Nance with no picks included. That's what I've been operating under as the framework for the deal. If that's not accurate, ignore everything I've said. LOL I don't disagree with Herb/21 for Murray/8. Honestly, it makes sense for Atlanta. To me, that makes sense considering the value both players have. I think a top 10 pick for a pick in the high 20s is fair in difference. I just see Jones as a much better fit than Ingram for us. Even if the cost is significantly higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 17 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: C'mon on down 'seasoned center" Clint Capela: CC got suitors. As long as he's cheap, he will be traded is what I was told. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 We need a thumbs down emoji instead of Like or Thanks for some of these posts. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 26 minutes ago, marco102 said: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted June 7 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 7 22 minutes ago, REHawksFan said: Thanks. I guess I missed that or just glossed over the pick swap. I thought @Sothron specifically said the trades were separate. DJM/Hunter/Clint for Ingram/Herb/Nance with no picks included. That's what I've been operating under as the framework for the deal. If that's not accurate, ignore everything I've said. LOL There are multiple offers being discussed. The two I mentioned are the two most likely to happen. The one you are talking about has no picks. It is a straight up 3 for 3 player trade. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted June 7 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 7 33 minutes ago, marco102 said: Before anyone asks we don't share everything we've been told. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 I'm not convinced that the Hawks are going to trade Clint. Quin absolutely loves him, even with the limitations that he has. If Quin also loves Clingan, then I'd be willing to bet that he is lobbying hard for the Hawks to keep Clint around to show Donovan the ropes. Which means OO would be the likely piece included in the trade that nets the Hawks very little to nothing in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted June 7 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 7 9 minutes ago, KB21 said: I know you don't want to hear this but they're really high on Clingan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txsting Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 I don't have a problem with Clingan per se, just better hope Sarr busts in this case. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 4 minutes ago, txsting said: I don't have a problem with Clingan per se, just better hope Sarr busts in this case. My issue is overvaluing an archetype that is quickly becoming a dinosaur archetype in the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warcore Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 2 hours ago, BangHolman said: then 4 and AJ for 3 that is unnecessary. Just take BPA at 4. AJ will get another opportunity if Dre goes out in the NOLA deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post Wretch Posted June 7 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted June 7 3 minutes ago, Sothron said: I know you don't want to hear this but they're really high on Clingan. I don't have a problem with Clingan or any of the top prospects. I do have a BIG problem if the driving factor here is making a safe, ready to contribute, higher floor pick and especially if this is being pushed by who our ownership "likes." All things being equal in a "flat" lottery, the pick should be the guy they (FO, coaches, scouts) believe has the highest ceiling. Side note: as always, thanks for what you share Soth. You know that not all of us are aiming to shoot the messenger. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 18 minutes ago, Sothron said: I know you don't want to hear this but they're really high on Clingan. He really don't want to hear they are higher on Risacher than Sarr. Washington is landing Sarr regardless of what we do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 5 minutes ago, Wretch said: I don't have a problem with Clingan or any of the top prospects. I do have a BIG problem if the driving factor here is making a safe, ready to contribute, higher floor pick and especially if this is being pushed by who our ownership "likes." All things being equal in a "flat" lottery, the pick should be the guy they (FO, coaches, scouts) believe has the highest ceiling. Side note: as always, thanks for what you share Soth. You know that not all of us are aiming to shoot the messenger. He's has upside and he's going to an optimal situation. He could end up the star of this draft but situation is the reason more than Clingan himself 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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