2023-24 Insider Information Thread

[Jody23]

 

[Hawkish]

29 minutes ago, Jody23 said:

 

We would rather trade Okongwu or Capela over the top pick?  Are you sure?  He must have some serious Zaxby’s sources.

Murray | Hunter | + for Jones | Ingram

…or Murray for Jones | filler

DO IT, New Orleans.  This is the way…

 

 

[Jody23]

3 minutes ago, Hawkish said:

We would rather trade Okongwu or Capela over the top pick?  Are you sure?  He must have some serious Zaxby’s sources.

Murray | Hunter | + for Jones | Ingram

…or Murray for Jones | filler

DO IT, New Orleans.  This is the way…

 

 

Yeah, I don't think the Hawks are trading the first pick in this scenario.

[RedDawg#8]

6 hours ago, AHF said:

I don’t have anywhere near the same confidence in Vit as I did Jalen.  Not even remotely close.  There is a reason he was on a 2-way deal at age 23.  30 teams didn’t see it worth it to then to even make him their 13th guy last year.  Doesn’t mean he can’t take a big leap but the odds are so much worse than a highly touted prospect who flourished when given steady minutes.

I think Vit’s skillset (and contract) is more suitable to build with vs  Hunter. He is not nearly as talented as Hunter nor has the potential of JJ, but he plays complimentary basketball on a team that’s trying to find pieces that fit. I don’t think of Vit as a potential starter the way we did JJ but he could be a high end role player.

[gurpilo]

hace 2 horas, Jody23 dijo:

 

I hope this is not true, DJM, #1 and Hunter fornJones and Ingram, this is a joke.

[kg01]

6 hours ago, Hawkish said:

We would rather trade Okongwu or Capela over the top pick?  Are you sure?  He must have some serious Zaxby’s sources.

Murray | Hunter | + for Jones | Ingram

…or Murray for Jones | filler

DO IT, New Orleans.  This is the way…

 

 

Hey Hawkish, I can also say (sourced) that I would prefer to ... NOT cut off my left foot with a butter knife.

.... (sourced)...

Kudos to David Griffin for continuing to play the Game of Groans.... 

[Jody23]

5 hours ago, RedDawg#8 said:

I think Vit’s skillset (and contract) is more suitable to build with vs  Hunter. He is not nearly as talented as Hunter nor has the potential of JJ, but he plays complimentary basketball on a team that’s trying to find pieces that fit. I don’t think of Vit as a potential starter the way we did JJ but he could be a high end role player.

Hasn't been talked about enough imo.  Vit was really good in the role he played and should be brought back.

[AHF]

1 minute ago, Jody23 said:

Hasn't been talked about enough imo.  Vit was really good in the role he played and should be brought back.

He will be brought back but no reason to get rid of talent to do so.  He is a RFA and nobody has shown much interest in him other than us.  Bring him back and keep developing him but don’t count on him to be your starter.  A complimentary role from a less talented player is perfect for depth.

[Final_quest]

4 hours ago, gurpilo said:

I hope this is not true, DJM, #1 and Hunter fornJones and Ingram, this is a joke.

…but would prefer to trade Capela or Okongwu.  
Also it says they discussed the merits of trading the #1 pick.  That could be a very short conversation with a resounding no as the answer.  
This is how the rumor mill works.  A scant hint of truth printed as a story.  Eventually they work the Lakers into the narrative.   

[kg01]

6 minutes ago, Final_quest said:

…but would prefer to trade Capela or Okongwu.  
Also it says they discussed the merits of trading the #1 pick.  That could be a very short conversation with a resounding no as the answer.  
This is how the rumor mill works.  A scant hint of truth printed as a story.  Eventually they work the Lakers into the narrative.   

"This is yearn-alism 101.  How else am I supposed to keep getting the big bucks from BSPN and the like?" - Woj, Shams, Haynes, etc. 

Eta. The real problem with stuff like this is that, as we make fun of it, we've fed into it unwittingly.  They got our eyes and our clicks (in some cases), which is all they need to survive and thrive.  Only way to kill off this nonsense is for us to stop feeding it.

Edited June 3 by kg01

[JayBirdHawk]

8 hours ago, Jody23 said:

 

I think this 'sourced info' from the trade deadline is more interesting...see how quickly one conversation evolves into Hawks trading everything including the kitchen and bath sinks for Herb Jones.

[Final_quest]

36 minutes ago, kg01 said:

"This is yearn-alism 101.  How else am I supposed to keep getting the big bucks from BSPN and the like?" - Woj, Shams, Haynes, etc. 

Eta. The real problem with stuff like this is that, as we make fun of it, we've fed into it unwittingly.  They got our eyes and our clicks (in some cases), which is all they need to survive and thrive.  Only way to kill off this nonsense is for us to stop feeding it.

   #1 pick is being shopped, Lakers interested. (Do not click this headline)  

I think for us the other problem is guys react to these rumors as truth.  The other day it was headline about the Jazz value Keyonte George over Murray, sure they do.  

[theheroatl]

I'm sure the reality is NO and ATL had extensive back and forth but NO only had sub-par deals that didn't involve their best players, more like trying to off-load dead weight for our better players. That's why no deals were done.

 

NO wasn't desperate at the deadline.. However, now they need a deal for Ingram but it could play out like Masai with Siakam.

[bleachkit]

Hawks want their good players. Pels want our good players. Hawks don't want their mediocre players. Pels don't want our mediocre players. That's why it's tough to complete trades. Everyone wants to win their trade, and rightfully so. 

[kg01]

5 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

Hawks want their good players. Pels want our good players. Hawks don't want their mediocre players. Pels don't want our mediocre players. That's why it's tough to complete trades. Everyone wants to win their trade, and rightfully so. 

Bleach droppin the factoids.

On a semi-related note, I'm honestly shocked a Trae-for-Zion deal hasn't been discussed.

As I've said before, that would be horrible for the Hawks but I could see the Resslers salivating over that.

[ShooterSays]

Herb Jones must be included & the 1st pick is off limits.

If they balk at that, good luck to them finding another team who’s going to give them an allstar caliber PG and a good quality starting Center for Brandon Ingram. 

Edited June 3 by ShooterSays

[JeffS17]

No way in hell I'm giving away Herb Jones for Murray if I'm the Pels. 

And the Hawks aren't going to take back trash and a couple of mid-late firsts either. 

If they find a middle ground, it will likely be something like Dyson Daniels + Ingram for DJ + Hunter and then negotiate the draft capital.

[macdaddy]

2 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

No way in hell I'm giving away Herb Jones for Murray if I'm the Pels. 

And the Hawks aren't going to take back trash and a couple of mid-late firsts either. 

If they find a middle ground, it will likely be something like Dyson Daniels + Ingram for DJ + Hunter and then negotiate the draft capital.

I think they are pretty desperate to get rid of Ingram so we should get great value for taking him.  

[JeffS17]

Just now, macdaddy said:

I think they are pretty desperate to get rid of Ingram so we should get great value for taking him.  

Toronto was desperate to get rid of Siakam and they got 3 firsts.  Siakam is a better player but I would not assume we would get great value.  Other teams will be interested

[macdaddy]

18 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

Toronto was desperate to get rid of Siakam and they got 3 firsts.  Siakam is a better player but I would not assume we would get great value.  Other teams will be interested

As you said Siakam is better but also seems like new orleans is in a tighter payroll crunch than Toronto was and Toronto was already in win later mode.   Pels have $100 million tied up in zion/ingram/CJ but they need to improve the team.  Getting Murray for Ingram straight up would be a huge steal for them on the court and financially so we should definitely  have more coming