2023-24 Insider Information Thread

[Final_quest]

39 minutes ago, ShooterSays said:

Those on the Clingan train, if we didn’t have Trae, would he still be your pick?

And what happens if Trae leaves in 2 years?

1. No

2. We have a greater chance keeping Trae with Clingan plus another asset from trading down.  Sarr is a small consolation prize if we lose Trae.  I don’t view Sarr as a future star, maybe a high level role player at best.  He has no offensive game. It sounds like they’ll take Risacher if they keep #1 anyways.  

If I had to bet on when a future star will get picked, I actually would take the field over the top 3 in this draft.  

[aali34]

@NBASupes dudes on twitter are sharing your posts if you didn’t know

 

[JayBirdHawk]

1 minute ago, Final_quest said:

We have a greater chance keeping Trae with Clingan plus another asset from trading down.

The best chance to keep Trae is more about how we reshape the rest of the existing roster and how willing we are to avoid the cost cutting route that has plagued this team - not 2 rookies. I mean we had the #4 and #10 picks (in a better draft) not too long ago, now we're circling that wagon again.

[Jdawgflow]

2 minutes ago, aali34 said:

@NBASupes dudes on twitter are sharing your posts if you didn’t know

 

IMO we still need to put the insider thread in the Senior forum.  It would stop a lot of this nonsense.

[KB21]

28 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

The best chance to keep Trae is more about how we reshape the rest of the existing roster and how willing we are to avoid the cost cutting route that has plagued this team - not 2 rookies. I mean we had the #4 and #10 picks (in a better draft) not too long ago, now we're circling that wagon again.

In actuality, that draft wasn’t very good.  

[JayBirdHawk]

2 minutes ago, KB21 said:

In actuality, that draft wasn’t very good.  

Hindsight.

[Final_quest]

28 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

The best chance to keep Trae is more about how we reshape the rest of the existing roster and how willing we are to avoid the cost cutting route that has plagued this team - not 2 rookies. I mean we had the #4 and #10 picks (in a better draft) not too long ago, now we're circling that wagon again.

If you have an extra pick it helps you reshape the roster.  It just depends on what you do with that pick.  It could be traded for a vet.  
But in this draft I really believe there are like 10 guys who are similar level prospects.  If you draft the right guys you can get more immediate help and more for the future as well.

Cutting has plagued this team, but it’s the effect not the cause.  Our entire front court had top 60 salaries, but not a single top 60 player.  You have to cut when you overspend.  It’s true for any budget.  We couldn’t trade Hunter, JC, or Hunter for a star.  Once we spent on them cutting salary was necessary.  Any NBA GM would be forced to do what we did.  Was spending on the wrong guys the main problem or cutting overpaid guys the problem?  You guys keep highlighting the wrong mistake.  

[RedDawg#8]

26 minutes ago, KB21 said:

In actuality, that draft wasn’t very good.  

That draft had Zion and Ja. This year pales in comparison.

[KB21]

1 minute ago, RedDawg#8 said:

That draft had Zion and Ja. This year pales in comparison.

Ja wasn’t a sure thing.  In fact, most had RJ Barrett rated higher.  I didn’t, but many had Barrett rated second to Zion.  

[deester11]

4 hours ago, Mikey said:

Because he doesn’t have a base for an offensive game. 

I scream bs on that.  He's improved aspects of his game.  I don't buy that he can't improve. He can accidently get 10 points but at this point I need that Defense and upside.

[REHawksFan]

1 hour ago, Final_quest said:

I don’t view Sarr as a future star, maybe a high level role player at best.  He has no offensive game.

These types of posts are so freaking annoying. He's 19 but you've got his whole freakin career figured out. SMH

[bleachkit]

1 hour ago, aali34 said:

@NBASupes dudes on twitter are sharing your posts if you didn’t know

 

Oh crap that's me. I'm busted y'all. 

[deester11]

3 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

These types of posts are so freaking annoying. He's 19 but you've got his whole freakin career figured out. SMH

Exactly. Every player in this draft has bust potential.  But they all can improve.  Except Sarr.  Makes sense even though he has the most upside.  Got it.

[HawkingAwesome]

1 hour ago, aali34 said:

@NBASupes dudes on twitter are sharing your posts if you didn’t know

 

hawksquawk getting roasted in the comments

 

[Birdsfan]

1 hour ago, KB21 said:

Ja wasn’t a sure thing.  In fact, most had RJ Barrett rated higher.  I didn’t, but many had Barrett rated second to Zion.  

I don't remember anyone having Barrett above Ja.  It was always a clear top 3, but it was always Zion, Ja and then Barrett.

[bleachkit]

2 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

The best chance to keep Trae is more about how we reshape the rest of the existing roster and how willing we are to avoid the cost cutting route that has plagued this team - not 2 rookies. I mean we had the #4 and #10 picks (in a better draft) not too long ago, now we're circling that wagon again.

Draft picks are how you get star players. You have to get lucky, that's the only way. 

[RedDawg#8]

2 minutes ago, Birdsfan said:

I don't remember anyone having Barrett above Ja.  It was always a clear top 3, but it was always Zion, Ja and then Barrett.

Don’t matter either way because it was a more talented draft at the time. Cam Reddish may have gone number one in this year’s draft. He compares very favorable to Risacher honestly lol

[RedDawg#8]

There are enough people that thought Ayton and Bagley were better draft prospects than Luka for me to know that nobody, including the paid professionals, really knows anything at the end of the day.

[bleachkit]

4 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said:

There are enough people that thought Ayton and Bagley were better draft prospects than Luka for me to know that nobody, including the paid professionals, really knows anything at the end of the day.

Seriously, this draft is one of the least predictable ever, and drafts by rule are unpredictable (the outcomes, that is). No one has any idea who will be good. Nobody. 

[MaceCase]

3 hours ago, supermariowest said:

I think the “don’t trade with the Spurs” stuff is overblown. I’m all about learning from mistakes but never has our mistake been as simple as trading with SA. With DJM, the mistake was ignoring our GM and letting ownership/nepotism make the call. The market was also upside down due to the recent Gobert trade. With Splitter, the mistake was trading for a player who was often injured. The result wasn’t surprising. To the best of my knowledge, the Spurs did nothing nefarious — didn’t lie to us or mislead us. They were simply the benefactor of our risky/misguided choices.

If we think a trade can make us better, make it. (One caveat, don’t trade with the Celtics. F those guys.)

Nice try, Pop.