2023-24 Insider Information Thread

[ShayD]

Has to be bs right?

[JayBirdHawk]

31 minutes ago, ShayD said:

Has to be bs right?

Assume everything you hear over the next few days from the 'Don Harrises' of the twitter world to be mostly BS.

Tis the Season!

The only thing I can say with certainty is that NO ONE knows exactly what the Hawks are going to or will do.

So....grain of salt should be the approach.

[bleachkit]

45 minutes ago, ShayD said:

Has to be bs right?

Defensive guard that cant shoot going number 1? Ill take the under on that.

[KB21]

5 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

Defensive guard that cant shoot going number 1? Ill take the under on that.

I would take Castle before I took Risacher.

[h4wkfan]

5 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

Defensive guard that cant shoot going number 1? Ill take the under on that.

His shooting issues are seriously overblown.

his issue is that it sounds like he thinks he can be a lead guard. If that’s the position he is fixed on - he’s gonna have major issues. 

[bleachkit]

4 minutes ago, h4wkfan said:

His shooting issues are seriously overblown.

his issue is that it sounds like he thinks he can be a lead guard. If that’s the position he is fixed on - he’s gonna have major issues. 

26.7% from three? That's not good. 

[Spud2nique]

14 hours ago, warcore said:

Why do you always assume everything is about race? Just curious. 

Thank you. Always tryin to bait me then blow the whistle on me. 

[HawksNWaffles]

28 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Assume everything you hear over the next few days from the 'Don Harrises' of the twitter world to be mostly BS.

Tis the Season!

The only thing I can say with certainty is that NO ONE knows exactly what the Hawks are going to or will do.

So....grain of salt should be the approach.

For once we are finally playing chess instead of checkers... It's awesome and scary at the same time 

[Spud2nique]

14 hours ago, bleachkit said:

Quite the opposite my friend, Im a believer in post-racialism, it's my hope the entire antiquated concept of race will eventually be a relic of the past.

We all gonna look like avatar folks soon except for me.

 

[h4wkfan]

3 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

26.7% from three? That's not good. 

He has good touch around the rim. Hit 90% of his free throws after his first 15 games (75.5% overall). Key Indicators say he will improve as a shooter. 
 

 his shot isn’t broken.
 

It’s an empty gym which I’m hesitant to buy, but has looked very good shooting at the combine and allegedly in workouts. Given the other indicators - I’m more willing to bet he will become a good enough shooter. 

[Spud2nique]

13 hours ago, warcore said:

There is nothing wrong with that. 

Well ngod dnmanit they oughta be!  

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, ShayD said:

Has to be bs right?

They said Rondo was on the same level as Marcus Williams. Both had workouts with us, joined by Randy Foye, 3 man workout.

Rondo (the non outsider shooter)> Marcus Williams UConn 

[HawksNWaffles]

@bleachkit

@Spud2nique

 

now now play nice

 

[Dnice]

^They got a special streaming somewhere.. lol

[JayBirdHawk]

The Milwaukee Bucks have some roster decisions to make this summer. The Bucks are starting a full year with Doc Rivers as head coach, and may look to make some scheme changes entering next season.

One player who could be impacted is Brook Lopez. Milwaukee reportedly would like to play a more versatile style of defense next season. That could lead to Lopez being available via trade this summer.

Lopez has one season left on his deal at $23 million. He's also heading into his age-36 season. Despite his age, Lopez has remained productive player, as he averaged 12.5 points, 5.2 rebounds and 2.4 blocks per game last season.

KEVIN O'CONNOR/THE RINGER

[ShooterSays]

If someone were to cliff note the Hawks portion that'd be swell.

 

[JayBirdHawk]

4 minutes ago, ShooterSays said:

If someone were to cliff note the Hawks portion that'd be swell.

 

1. Atlanta Hawks

Donovan Clingan | 7-2 center | 20 years old | Connecticut

The conversation around the Hawks has been fascinating to track. Despite Hawks’ general manager Landry Fields saying the team is comfortable selecting at No. 1, league sources continue to get the impression Atlanta is open to offers for the right deal.

One reason: Clingan is the name I have heard linked with the Hawks most often over this past week. He wouldn’t be the sexiest pick, but would fill a few objectives for Atlanta. Firstly, the organization has not yet shown any indication of rebuilding, so it might prefer to select a player who can fit with its roster sooner rather than later. Secondly, coach Quin Snyder had success in Utah building around an elite big man screener and rim protector in Rudy Gobert. Clingan, who impressed in a recent workout for Atlanta, would provide the Hawks a potentially dominant interior presence and high-character big locked up for the near term.

Clingan had a monster close to the season, helping lead Connecticut to a second straight national title while averaging 13.7 points, 8.6 rebounds and 2.9 blocks over his last 18 games, including 16 points, 9.4 rebounds and three blocks in his last seven. After returning from early-season ankle and foot injuries and getting back up to speed, he was one of the most dominant players in college basketball and was arguably the most imposing defender in the country through his sheer presence.

In my last mock draft in early June, I noted Clingan has been viewed as a potential option to go in the top three, and that remains the case. The Hawks might view Clingan more as a potential trade-down target and believe Risacher is a better potential option if they keep the No. 1 pick. The team has a workout with Risacher scheduled this week, which could result in a change of course in one direction or another. This selection process doesn’t seem like a done deal at this stage.

Atlanta might not even be able to move down all that far if it wants Clingan, as several teams picking below the top 3, including Memphis and Chicago, are interested in him and might try to trade up themselves.

[mountainjim]

Preamble from same article 

 

NBA mock draft 2024: Donovan Clingan to Hawks? Why No. 1 pick is still up for grabs

Sam Vecenie

Jun 20, 2024

 

We have less than a week until the 2024 NBA Draft, and we have just as much clarity about what will happen as we did about a month ago. By that, I mean we have little clarity.

The Atlanta Hawks hold all the cards with the No. 1 pick, and league sources are still unsure of their plans. The Hawks seem to have several potential options as they sort through a draft class that does not have typical quality at the top.

As one NBA executive told me earlier this week, this class, unlike most that feature certainty with its top prospects, has an inordinate number of eye-of-the-beholder talents. Do you believe Zaccharie Risacher has significant athletic upside? Do you think Donovan Clingan can stay on the court in the playoffs? Do you believe Alex Sarr’s offensive game will keep developing? Do you think Stephon Castle will become at least a competent perimeter shooter? Do you think Reed Sheppard’s size is a significant hindrance? These are the top five players on my board, yet questions like these have been regularly bandied about in front offices all over the league. How key decision-makers answer those fundamental questions — as well as several others regarding the players I rank below them — will determine the outcome of this draft.

NBA teams largely agree this is a down class from the top of the draft through the top-10. However, many believe the middle of the first round, going all the way to the No. 20-25 range, features intriguing options before the class levels out again in the second round. Most of the intriguing wings are likely to be taken near the top of the class, with that middle portion of the first round littered with big men and guard depth that could yield several long-term NBA players. I anticipate fewer All-Stars this season than the six or so that come from a normal draft class, but the number of players who stick in the NBA may be about the same.

[macdaddy]

4 minutes ago, mountainjim said:

Do you think Donovan Clingan can stay on the court in the playoffs? Do you believe Alex Sarr’s offensive game will keep developing? Do you think Stephon Castle will become at least a competent perimeter shooter? Do you think Reed Sheppard’s size is a significant hindrance?

These questions are hilarious and should be enlightening

So for Clingan and Sheppard there are questions as to whether they will be effective in the NBA based on things that they can't control or improve: size and quickness.

Sarr the big question mark is whether an athletic, 7 footer who's 19 years old will keep developing?

Seriously this isn't that hard. 

[JayBirdHawk]

Mostly about Houston's #3 pick, but since we might be interested.

 

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For example, Houston would love to add a player like Donovan Mitchell but recent reports suggest the All-NBA guard is likely to sign an extension to stay in Cleveland. In notebook 1.0, New Orleans’ Brandon Ingram was mentioned as a player seen in a lower tier than Mitchell and in recent days, rumors have swirled about the Pelicans dangling Ingram in trade talks and in one iteration, a hypothetical Ingram-for-Alperen Şengün swap was mentioned, but the Rockets have no interest, team sources said. League sources said New Orleans also contacted the Philadelphia 76ers concerning a possible Ingram trade.

 Is there a possibility Memphis could entice Houston by offering Smart in addition to the No. 9 pick and future assets, to move up and grab Clingan if he isn’t already gone? Tennessee’s Dalton Knecht, who has fans within the Rockets organization, could be available if Houston were to move back.

Two-way veterans like Alec Burks, Gary Harris, Talen Horton-Tucker and Saddiq Bey (among others) are of interest, but Bey’s restricted free agency makes things difficult

 

Houston Rockets draft notebook 2.0: Big board debates, domino effect and more - The Athletic (nytimes.com)