2023-24 Insider Information Thread

[JayBirdHawk]

4 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

These questions are hilarious and should be enlightening

So for Clingan and Sheppard there are questions as to whether they will be effective in the NBA based on things that they can't control or improve: size and quickness.

Sarr the big question mark is whether an athletic, 7 footer who's 19 years old will keep developing?

Seriously this isn't that hard. 

It's always interesting to see what adjectives are used depending on the player and the direction they want to drive conversation in.

[KB21]

I'm curious to see what the reaction will be if the top 3 picks end up being Clingan, Castle, and Sheppard.

[terrell]

2 hours ago, bleachkit said:

Defensive guard that cant shoot going number 1? Ill take the under on that.

Well most fans want a defensive big wing/PF that cant shoot in Sarr so ........ lol

 

[macdaddy]

6 minutes ago, terrell said:

Well most fans want a defensive big wing/PF that cant shoot in Sarr so ........ lol

 

I don't understand where the idea that Sarr can't shoot is coming from.  

[terrell]

2 hours ago, KB21 said:

I would take Castle before I took Risacher.

Meh. Isn't Castle the same size as Murray or shorter?

I'm not the biggest Risacher fan, and I like Castle, but come on..... lol

If we could get 4 from SA in Murray trade

Trae/Risacher/?/JJ/Clingan would be ALOT of size around Trae..

 

[JayBirdHawk]

7 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

I don't understand where the idea that Sarr can't shoot is coming from.  

But yet I'm being sold that Clingan hit 48 of 100 3s in a work out, so we good to go with that as a projection of what he can do in real games. 

[terrell]

9 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

I don't understand where the idea that Sarr can't shoot is coming from.  

Have you watched games or just highlights?

[JayBirdHawk]

5 minutes ago, terrell said:

Meh. Isn't Castle the same size as Murray or shorter?

I'm not the biggest Risacher fan, and I like Castle, but come on..... lol

If we could get 4 from SA in Murray trade

Trae/Risacher/?/JJ/Clingan would be ALOT of size around Trae..

 

His athletic combine testing may be a big cause for concern, but I like the speed with which he processes and makes decisions on offense.

[terrell]

1 minute ago, JayBirdHawk said:

But yet I'm being sold that Clingan hit 48 of 100 3s in a work out, so we good to go with that as a projection of what he can do in real games. 

Clingan gives us some real size we've all been screaming for for years..

Sarr is really skinny.

We really want another thin frontcourt player?

Just playing devils advocate here.. lol

1 minute ago, JayBirdHawk said:

His athletic combine testing may be a big cause for concern, but I like the speed with which he processes and makes decisions on offense.

And Im sure QS does too.....

[terrell]

16 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

But yet I'm being sold that Clingan hit 48 of 100 3s in a work out, so we good to go with that as a projection of what he can do in real games. 

I'm not expecting Clingan to be a shooter.. 

If we want to spread the court some, put OO in the game.. 

I'm just tired of the Hawks getting bullied down low...

Clingan is growing on me some... 

If we could get Risacher AND Clingan like the F.O wanst, I'd be pretty ecstatic tbh.

Im thinking Risacher can play the 2 here..

He could be what we wanted Reddish to be....

OT the French Huerter with better defense and more aggression..... lol

Edited June 20 by terrell

[JayBirdHawk]

1 minute ago, terrell said:

Clingan gives us some real size we've all been screaming for for years..

Sarr is really skinny.

We really want another thin frontcourt player?

Just playing devils advocate here.. lol

I'd rather address the 'bulk issue' via trade or FA market.  Hawks are still devoid of talent, we need more talented players that can do multiple things.

[ShooterSays]

Sarr is going to fill out. Look at players like Giannis and Embiid when they first came into the league vs now. We should be drafting for the next 10 years, not just the next 2.

Chet and Wemby are both featherweights, but contributing at a high level as rookies. Sarr isn’t on their skill level RIGHT NOW, but similar build.

If his shooting is real…watch out. 

[macdaddy]

8 minutes ago, terrell said:

Have you watched games or just highlights?

I have.  Seems like he has a good shooting stroke and he's confident taking them in games.   I believe this is his shot chart from last year.   I'm guessing it's better than most 19 year old 7 footers

[AHF]

5 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

I have.  Seems like he has a good shooting stroke and he's confident taking them in games.   I believe this is his shot chart from last year.   I'm guessing it's better than most 19 year old 7 footers

Also worth noting that these are his age 18 shot charts.  Next season will be his age 19 season. 

[Jdawgflow]

6 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

I have.  Seems like he has a good shooting stroke and he's confident taking them in games.   I believe this is his shot chart from last year.   I'm guessing it's better than most 19 year old 7 footers

If he is shooting more corner threes in our system I bet his 3pt% will be better.

[terrell]

7 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

I have.  Seems like he has a good shooting stroke and he's confident taking them in games.   I believe this is his shot chart from last year.   I'm guessing it's better than most 19 year old 7 footers

I've pretty much came to the conclusion that we aren't really interested in Sarr so Ive moved on... 

However, If we take him, Ill go back and watch more film/games.. lol

[ShooterSays]

Sarr is > 70% on his FT’s and has good form. Usually indicators that the 3 will improve.

[JayBirdHawk]

12 minutes ago, terrell said:

I'm not expecting Clingan to be a shooter.. 

I'm not expecting him to be a shooter either, but I'm having trouble reconciling someone projecting he can improve his range based on workouts and the combine when he was also awful from the free-throw line in college but in the same breath question Sarr's projection with similar range when you consider what he has done in games.  That's all I'm saying.

[REHawksFan]

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/40380729/how-all-30-nba-teams-nail-their-2024-offseasons

 

 

How can all 30 NBA teams "NAIL" their 2024 offseason by ESPN.  Any guesses?   Anyone? Bueller....

 

Spoiler

Trade Trae to the Lakers.  Really?  That's the best you got stupid ESPN guy?  SMH

 

 

Edited June 20 by REHawksFan

[h4wkfan]

24 minutes ago, terrell said:

Meh. Isn't Castle the same size as Murray or shorter?

Castle measured 6 5.5 without shoes. Murray was 6 5 with shoes. castle has him by 1-2” on height. Murray came into the league in the 170s. Castle weighed in at 210. Murray wingspan is 6 9.5 where castle is 6 9.  Very, very different sized players. 
 

Castle has legit size to handle big guards to small forwards.