I've been watching the 2024 NBA Draft class and it's been... weaker than usual

[NBASupes]

7 minutes ago, JTB said:

The best thing about Sarr offensively right now is that walking in, he can probably take most centers off the dribble to the basket.

i believe the shooting and playmaking is a work in progress however. Yes  he’s capable but like you stated he needs polishing there.

How many centers will go out to guard him? None

 How many centers will just bully him? All 

How many centers can he legit deal consistent contact from? None

Ya'll keep trying to make this work in your head but the reality is way harder. 

I tried to tell Caitlin Clark fans that the WNBA perimeter defenders are levels better than college ball and every perimeter player has struggled to adjust out of college. But they had it in their mind that every WNBA defend was Hailey Van Lith with a tan. 

The NBA is HARD. 

[theheroatl]

10 minutes ago, KB21 said:

Might as well get used to it.  This is the new breed of center in the NBA.  The days of the slow plodder are dead.  

Yep.. if you think about it.. those past four draftees is who you will be up against in the playoffs

[KB21]

7 minutes ago, theheroatl said:

Yep.. if you think about it.. those past four draftees is who you will be up against in the playoffs

Yep.  Then you consider that with the Grizzlies getting healthy, you have to deal with JJJ and you still have to deal with Giannis.  Looking ahead, this is what’s coming into the league.  

[JayBirdHawk]

Haven't seen many Post Combine Mocks from the usual suspects as yet:

https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-nba-draft-predictor-the-most-likely-pick-for-each-team/

 

https://collegesportswire.usatoday.com/lists/2024-nba-mock-draft-lottery-combine-college-basketball/

 

[kg01]

13 minutes ago, KB21 said:

Yep.  Then you consider that with the Grizzlies getting healthy, you have to deal with JJJ and you still have to deal with Giannis.  Looking ahead, this is what’s coming into the league.  

Some folks would rather harp on his screen setting.  As if that's not something that can be learned in like 2 practices. 

It's ok.  King01 has already ID'd the compromise to keep peace over the land.  We'll pick up Hunter Dickerson as an UDFA to satisfy the folks yearning for a dominant college big.

The king-eth hath spoken-eth...

[NBASupes]

14 hours ago, NBASupes said:

NBASupes combined 2023 and 2024 NBA Draft Class Big Board: 

Tier 1: Elite Cornerstone Prospect:
1. Victor Wembanyama F/C | Metropolitans 92 7'5" 230 lbs 19.4 yrs 24.0 PTS 11.1 REB 2.4 AST 3.6 BLK 0.8 STL

Tier 2: Tier 2: All-Star potential –
2. Scoot Henderson
PG | G League 6'2" 195 lbs G League 19.3 yrs 21.1 PTS 6.1 REB 7.6 AST 0.5 BLK 1.4 STL

Tier 3: All-Star Possibilities –
3. Brandon Miller SF | Alabama 6'9" 200 lbs Freshman 20.5 yrs 20.7 PTS 9.1 REB 2.3 AST 1.0 BLK 1.0 STL

Tier 3.5 - Decent Role player potential with All-Star possibilities down the road.
4. Bilal Coulibaly
SF | Metropolitans 92 6'7" 205 lbs International 18.8 yrs 18.2 PTS 6.6 REB 2.2 AST 1.0 BLK 2.5 STL

5. Amen Thompson
SG/PG | Overtime Elite 6'7" 202 lbs 20.3 yrs 20.8 PTS 8.2 REB 7.9 AST 1.0 BLK 3.1 STL

6. Ausar Thompson
SG/SF | Overtime Elite 6'7" 207 lbs 20.3 yrs 21.3 PTS 9.1 REB 7.9 AST 1.6 BLK 3.5 STL

7. Jarace Walker
F | Houston 6'8" 220 lbs Freshman 19.7 yrs 14.7 PTS 8.9 REB 2.4 AST 1.7 BLK 1.3 STL

8. Cam Whitmore
F | Villanova 6'7" 225 lbs Freshman 18.8 yrs 16.6 PTS 7.0 REB 1.0 AST 0.5 BLK 1.9 STL

9. Anthony Black
SG/SF | Arkansas 6'7" 195 lbs Freshman 19.3 yrs 13.2 PTS 5.2 REB 4.0 AST 0.6 BLK 2.1 STL

Tier 4 - Tier 4: Decent Role player potential or raw with AS possibilities.

High End
10. Edey - 97

11. Risacher- 96

12. Knecht - 94

13. Shannon Jr. - 94

14. Gradey d*ck
SG/SF | Kansas 6'7" 195 lbs Freshman 19.5 yrs 15.5 PTS 5.7 REB 1.8 AST 0.3 BLK 1.6 STL

15. Cason Wallace
PG | Kentucky 6'4" 185 lbs Freshman 19.5 yrs 13.1 PTS 4.2 REB 4.8 AST 0.5 BLK 2.2 STL

Mid End
16. Brandin Podziemski
PG | Santa Clara 6'5" 205 lbs Sophomore 20.2 yrs 19.9 PTS 8.8 REB 3.7 AST 0.5 BLK 1.8 STL

17. Kobe Bufkin
G | Michigan 6'4" 175 lbs Sophomore 19.6 yrs 14.8 PTS 4.8 REB 3.1 AST 0.7 BLK 1.4 STL

18. Kolek - 94

19. Clingan - 94

20. Sheppard- 93

Low End
21. Sarr - 93

22. Collier - 93

23. Dillingham- 93

24. Dereck Lively II
C | Duke 7'1" 230 lbs Freshman 19.2 yrs 9.1 PTS 9.5 REB 1.9 AST 4.2 BLK 0.9 STL

25. Stephon Castle
PG/SG | UConn 6'6" 190 lbs Freshman 19.3 yrs 15.2 PTS 6.0 REB 4.4 AST 0.7 BLK 1.4 STL

26. Ron Holland
SF/PF | G League 6'8" 200 lbs G League 18.6 yrs 22.0 PTS 7.5 REB 3.3 AST 1.0 BLK 2.6 STL

27. Nikola Topić
PG | Red Star 6'6" 201 lbs International 18.5 yrs 19.1 PTS 4.2 REB 7.1 AST 0.2 BLK 1.1 STL

28. Cody Williams
SF | Colorado 6'8" 185 lbs Freshman 19.2 yrs16.6 PTS 4.1 REB 2.2 AST 0.9 BLK 1.0 STL

29. Matas Buzelis
SF | G League 6'11" 195 lbs G League 19.3 yrs 15.8 PTS 7.5 REB 2.0 AST 2.0 BLK 1.3 STL

30. Ja'Kobe Walter
SG | Baylor 6'5" 180 lbs Freshman 19.4 yrs 16.8 PTS 5.6 REB 2.0 AST 0.2 BLK 1.5 STL

31. Kyle Filipowski
C | Duke 7'0" 248 lbs Sophomore 20.3 yrs 20.6 PTS 9.9 REB 3.3 AST 2.1 BLK 1.3 STL

32. Tidjane Salaun
SF | Cholet Basket 6'9" 203 lbs International 18.5 yrs 15.6 PTS 5.7 REB 1.2 AST 0.3 BLK 1.9 STL

33. Isaiah Collier
PG | USC 6'4" 205 lbs Freshman 19.4 yrs 19.8 PTS 3.4 REB 5.0 AST 0.2 BLK 1.7 STL

34. Yves Missi
C | Baylor 6'10" 235 lbs Freshman 19.8 yrs 17.6 PTS 9.1 REB 0.5 AST 2.6 BLK 1.2 STL

35. Kel'el Ware
C | Indiana 7'0" 223 lbs Sophomore 19.8 yrs 16.9 PTS 10.5 REB 1.9 AST 1.7 BLK 0.7 STL

36. Jared McCain
PG | Duke 6'3" 197 lbs Freshman 19.9 yrs 15.5 PTS 6.0 REB 2.3 AST 0.0 BLK 1.3 STL

37. Ryan Dunn
SF | Virginia 6'8" 216 lbs Sophomore 21.1 yrs 11.8 PTS 9.1 REB 1.2 AST 2.9 BLK 1.9 STL

38. Taylor Hendricks
F | UCF 6'9" 210 lbs Freshman 19.5 yrs 15.7 PTS 7.2 REB 1.4 AST 1.8 BLK 0.9 STL

39. GG Jackson
PF | South Carolina 6'9" 215 lbs Freshman 18.4 yrs 17.4 PTS 6.7 REB 1.0 AST 0.9 BLK 0.8 STL

40. Leonard Miller
SF | G League 6'10" 211 lbs 19.5 yrs 20.5 PTS 12.3 REB 1.9 AST 1.0 BLK 1.2 STL

41. Nick Smith Jr.
G | Arkansas 6'5" 185 lbs Freshman 19.1 yrs 17.5 PTS 2.3 REB 2.4 AST 0.2 BLK 1.2 STL

42. Keyonte George
SG | Baylor 6'4" 185 lbs Freshman 19.5 yrs 19.3 PTS 5.2 REB 3.5 AST 0.2 BLK 1.4 STL
- I can't even lie, I missed on George. He got drafted in the range I had him in which was 12-22 which I expected

43. Jordan Hawkins
SG | UConn 6'5" 195 lbs Sophomore 21.0 yrs 19.8 PTS 4.6 REB 1.6 AST 0.6 BLK 0.9 STL

44. Rayan Rupert
SG | NZ Breakers 6'6" 192 lbs International 18.9 yrs 13.6 PTS 4.8 REB 1.6 AST 0.3 BLK 1.5 STL

45. Kris Murray
PF | Iowa 6'8" 225 lbs Junior 22.7 yrs 20.9 PTS 8.2 REB 2.1 AST 1.2 BLK 1.1 STL

46. Maxwell Lewis
SF | Pepperdine 6'7" 195 lbs Sophomore 20.8 yrs 19.6 PTS 6.5 REB 3.2 AST 0.9 BLK 1.0 STL

47. Sidy Cissoko
SG | G League 6'5" 176 lbs G League 19.1 yrs 14.4 PTS 3.5 REB 3.9 AST 1.2 BLK 1.3 STL

48. Brice Sensabaugh
F | Ohio State 6'6" 235 lbs Freshman 19.5 yrs 23.9 PTS 7.9 REB 1.7 AST 0.6 BLK 0.8 STL

49. Jett Howard
SG | Michigan 6'8" 215 lbs Freshman 19.7 yrs 16.1 PTS 3.2 REB 2.3 AST 0.7 BLK 0.5 STL

50. Oscar Tshiebwe
C | Kentucky 6'9" 260 lbs Senior 23.5 yrs 17.6 PTS 14.6 REB 1.7 AST 1.1 BLK 1.7 STL

51. Noah Clowney
PF | Alabama
6'10"
210 lbs

52. Johnny Furphy

53. Bona

54. Tyler Smith
PF/SF | G League 6'11" 224 lbs G League 19.3 yrs 22.3 PTS 8.0 REB 2.4 AST 1.5 BLK 1.4 STL

55. Oso Ighodaro
PF | Marquette 6'9" 225 lbs Senior 21.6 yrs 15.7 PTS 8.2 REB 3.0 AST 1.3 BLK 1.1 STL

56. Izan Almansa
PF | G League 6'10" 216 lbs G League 18.7 yrs 13.9 PTS 9.8 REB 2.0 AST 1.1 BLK 1.0 STL

57. Ulrich Chomche
PF/C | NBA Academy Africa

58. Harrison Ingram
SF | North Carolina 6'7" 233 lbs Junior 21.2 yrs 14.0 PTS 9.8 REB 2.5 AST 0.6 BLK 1.6 STL

59. Payton Sandfort

60. Kanaan Carlyle

61. Trentyn Flowers

62. P.J. Hall

63. Ajay Mitchell

64. Dillon Jones

Tier 5 – Backups and G-Leaguers – A lot of players.
65. Markquis Nowell
PG | Kansas State 5'8" 160 lbs Senior 23.4 yrs 17.2 PTS 3.4 REB 8.1 AST 0.1 BLK 2.5 STL

66. Colby Jones
SG | Xavier

67. Bobi Klintman
SF/PF | Wake Forest 6'10" 225 lbs Freshman 20.2 yrs 9.3 PTS 8.0 REB 1.4 AST 1.1 BLK 0.8 STL

68. Jalen Hood-Schifino
PG/SG | Indiana 6'6" 213 lbs Freshman 19.9 yrs 14.7 PTS 4.5 REB 4.0 AST 0.3 BLK 0.9 STL

69. Dariq Whitehead

70. Mo Gueye

71. Jamie Jaquez* - Moved up to tier 4 when drafted by Miami for optimal fit. 

NA to no one listed from the classes. 

 

 

[kg01]

6 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

 

 

@bleachkit, another guy gettin bigger.  School us on how this can't happen.  Come on, bro.  You got one job around here.  Time to shine. 

[Spud2nique]

31 minutes ago, kg01 said:

@bleachkit, another guy gettin bigger.  School us on how this can't happen.  Come on, bro.  You got one job around here.  Time to shine. 

I just wanna let y’all know that I’ve ungrown a quarter of a centimeter from last year…

I SHRUNK! HONEY I SHRUNK MYSELF! 
 

 

 
 

 

ps GET OFF MY LAWN!!!! 
 

pps I love dogs to death but if they poo on my lawn and I see it, I’m rubbin ya nose in your dog’s biz prolly make ya lick it too.

#oldmanprolems

[Jdawgflow]

1 hour ago, Spud2nique said:

I just wanna let y’all know that I’ve ungrown a quarter of a centimeter from last year…

I SHRUNK! HONEY I SHRUNK MYSELF! 
 

 

 
 

 

ps GET OFF MY LAWN!!!! 
 

pps I love dogs to death but if they poo on my lawn and I see it, I’m rubbin ya nose in your dog’s biz prolly make ya lick it too.

#oldmanprolems

This wouldn’t happen to be in a culdesac per chance?

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[Gray Mule]

1 hour ago, Spud2nique said:

I just wanna let y’all know that I’ve ungrown a quarter of a centimeter from last year…

 

No worries, Spud.  I was 6'3" in my youth and now I'm barely 6'2" but I've gained about 30 pounds.

The older you get, the more you shrink.  It's just nature working on you.  Don't worry.  Be happy!

[AHF]

34 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

For reference:

Sarr #1

Risacher #2

Clingan #3

Buzelis #5

Holland #6

Salaun #10

Cody Williams #12

Missi #17

Ware #19

Edey #28

[JayBirdHawk]

6 minutes ago, AHF said:

For reference:

Sarr #1

Risacher #2

Clingan #3

Buzelis #5

Holland #6

Salaun #10

Cody Williams #12

Missi #17

Ware #19

Edey #28

I was too lazy to do it. lol.

[benhillboy]

What’s up with Bronny besides making me feel old as dirt?  I’ve never seen him play but his passing and defensive IQ better be off the damn charts.  Its so weird seeing him listed at 6’4” 210 like bruh we literally watched you grow from a baby to a large ass mfer.

[KB21]

2 minutes ago, benhillboy said:

What’s up with Bronny besides making me feel old as dirt?  I’ve never seen him play but his passing and defensive IQ better be off the damn charts.  Its so weird seeing him listed at 6’4” 210 like bruh we literally watched you grow from a baby to a large ass mfer.

He's only 6'1", and he's not good.  

[JayBirdHawk]

The Kings met with several players during last week’s NBA draft combine in Chicago, a league source told The Sacramento Bee, confirming a report from Fox 40’s Sean Cunningham. The list of players who met with Kings representatives included Alex Sarr, Donovan Clingan, Dalton Knecht, Ja’Kobe Walter, Cody Williams and Sacramento native Jared McCain.

 

Source: The Sacramento Kings met with these top NBA prospects at draft combine in Chicago (yahoo.com)

[bleachkit]

7 hours ago, kg01 said:

@bleachkit, another guy gettin bigger.  School us on how this can't happen.  Come on, bro.  You got one job around here.  Time to shine. 

All first year basketball players grow a few inches in the off season, and all first year football players put on 15 lbs of muscle in the off-season. Unless they are complete busts, in which case they didn't grow or put on muscle. 

[Hawkish]

50 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

The Kings met with several players during last week’s NBA draft combine in Chicago, a league source told The Sacramento Bee, confirming a report from Fox 40’s Sean Cunningham. The list of players who met with Kings representatives included Alex Sarr, Donovan Clingan, Dalton Knecht, Ja’Kobe Walter, Cody Williams and Sacramento native Jared McCain.

 

Source: The Sacramento Kings met with these top NBA prospects at draft combine in Chicago (yahoo.com)

Are the Kings eyeing a trade up?

[Spud2nique]

4 hours ago, AHF said:

For reference:

Sarr #1

Risacher #2

Clingan #3

Buzelis #5

 

Who says our mod can’t count to ..

.. 

[Spud2nique]

5 minutes ago, Hawkish said:

Are the Kings eyeing a trade up?

Sabonis and Huerter for #1 and Hunter who says no?