2024 Hawks Offseason Thread: What's Next? 2024-25 Season Outlook.

[REHawksFan]

41 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Yes.

Just listened to Locked on Hawks and Brad saying Windler isn't eligible because he has too much service time. Said he's either with the big club or will be playing elsewhere. 

[JayBirdHawk]

36 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

Just listened to Locked on Hawks and Brad saying Windler isn't eligible because he has too much service time. Said he's either with the big club or will be playing elsewhere. 

I didn't even check how many years he had. Thanks

[REHawksFan]

3 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

I didn't even check how many years he had. Thanks

So now I wonder if Nico is the only choice of if someone else is being considered?

[JayBirdHawk]

4 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

So now I wonder if Nico is the only choice of if someone else is being considered?

Depends on the plan for Niko.

Does he have a contract overseas that requires a buyout? If so, how much?

[REHawksFan]

40 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Depends on the plan for Niko.

Does he have a contract overseas that requires a buyout? If so, how much?

I've tried to search for that but haven't found any information on it.  I would have for him to go back overseas.  Would much prefer he be on a 2 way and at least get some run in Atlanta and CP.  

[JayBirdHawk]

1 hour ago, REHawksFan said:

I've tried to search for that but haven't found any information on it.  I would have for him to go back overseas.  Would much prefer he be on a 2 way and at least get some run in Atlanta and CP.  

Yep. Get him in the program early.

[NBASupes]

Cut Liddell, sign Nikola to a 4 year deal or sign him to a two way

[bird_dirt]

4 hours ago, REHawksFan said:

Just listened to Locked on Hawks and Brad saying Windler isn't eligible because he has too much service time. Said he's either with the big club or will be playing elsewhere. 

Looks like it’s Gone with the Windler. 

[JayBirdHawk]

Upcoming schedule and dates:

 

July 27-Aug. 11

• Olympics (Paris)

Aug. 31

• Last day to use the waive-and-stretch provision

Sept. 27

• Training camp begins for teams playing outside North America

Oct. 1

• Training camp begins for teams not playing outside North America

Oct. 19

• Last day to waive a player on a non-guaranteed contract and not incur a salary cap charge

Oct. 21

• Last day of the offseason

• Last date to sign a rookie scale or veteran extension (if more than one season is left. If a player has an option, he is allowed to extend up until June 30)

• Last day a player can sign a designated veteran (supermax) extension

• Rosters set for NBA opening day (5 p.m. ET)

• Last day to sign-and-trade a free agent

• Last day a player with an Exhibit 10 contract can be converted to a two-way

Oct. 22

• Regular season begins

Oct. 31

• Deadline to exercise third-year and fourth-year team options on rookie contracts

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[REHawksFan]

49 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

But, but, but......Trae is distancing himself from the Hawks. LOL

This is good stuff. Hard work makes the dream work. Or something like that. 

[bird_dirt]

13 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

The Pickle Bros are soaking it up this offseason. It’s gonna get spicy folks!

[kg01]

1 minute ago, bird_dirt said:

The Pickle Bros are soaking it up this offseason. It’s gonna get spicy folks!

Who knew the real 'next' Stockton and Malone were in the house the whole time!?!

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[Spud2nique]

7 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

Special things can happen at the beach  

 

[Gray Mule]

Next move, if there is a next move, is sure to have a reaction.  Whatever it is, I'll just go ahead and post it now:

"Wow!  I didn't see that one coming.  I don't like it."

Carry on.

[JayBirdHawk]

The 7 most underdiscussed NBA teams this offseason

THE ATLANTA HAWKS

The Hawks took the ideal middle ground after leaping to No. 1 in the lottery: using the pick on a high-wattage prospect in Zaccharie Risacher, and then trading whichever of their star guards -- Dejounte Murray in the end -- netted the fattest return. They didn't get overexuberant trading youth or picks for short-terms wins. They couldn't bottom out since the Spurs control their first-round picks through 2027, so they recouped decent value flipping Murray.

With Trae Young still on board, the Hawks can develop their youth while treading water around .500. And yet now that they've walked that path, the end result feels uncertain and perhaps unsatisfying. Getting their picks back by trading Young to San Antonio would have made for a clean teardown ahead of the 2025 and 2026 drafts. The Spurs' and Lakers' interest in Young has cooled in recent months, sources said, but such doors never close shut.

As is, Young at 25 could be the oldest member of a potential starting five featuring Dyson Daniels, Risacher, Jalen Johnson and Onyeka Okongwu. Johnson is 22 with All-Star potential. He and Risacher could develop into an explosive, complementary pairing at forward. Young could lead a fun, up-tempo team that might be ready to peak by the middle of his prime.

Don't put that starting five in pen. Clint Capela is still here, in the final year of his contract -- and on the trade market, sources said. De'Andre Hunter surely wants to start. Daniels' shaky shooting could make him wonky fit in an off-ball role next to Young. That said, Daniels is a natural in a fast-paced system, and his secondary playmaking -- and that of Johnson -- could get Young easier looks as Atlanta works to diversify its offense. Daniels is an elite defender, and Atlanta needs those around Young.

Bogdan Bogdanovic could start, but he can prop up the offense next to Kobe Bufkin while Young rests -- a chronic weak spot until Atlanta acquired Murray. The Hawks are optimistic Mouhamed Gueye -- their second-round pick in 2023 -- is ready to claim a rotation spot, sources said. Gueye and Vit Krejci could round out a decent bench rotation.

But where is it all going? There is a clear top eight in the East: the Boston Celtics, Knicks, Sixers, Milwaukee Bucks, Cavaliers, Magic, Pacers and Miami Heat. One of these teams will disappoint, but it's hard to see the Hawks soaring above the play-in. Meanwhile, they are way better than the dregs.

The development-based path out of the middle might be too slow for Young. The more aggressive one -- trading 2029 and 2031 first-round picks for vets -- might be too much, too soon. The Hawks might be heading for an inevitable decision point with Young.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/40583390/lowe-7-most-discussed-nba-teams-offseason

[REHawksFan]

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

The 7 most underdiscussed NBA teams this offseason

THE ATLANTA HAWKS

The Hawks took the ideal middle ground after leaping to No. 1 in the lottery: using the pick on a high-wattage prospect in Zaccharie Risacher, and then trading whichever of their star guards -- Dejounte Murray in the end -- netted the fattest return. They didn't get overexuberant trading youth or picks for short-terms wins. They couldn't bottom out since the Spurs control their first-round picks through 2027, so they recouped decent value flipping Murray.

With Trae Young still on board, the Hawks can develop their youth while treading water around .500. And yet now that they've walked that path, the end result feels uncertain and perhaps unsatisfying. Getting their picks back by trading Young to San Antonio would have made for a clean teardown ahead of the 2025 and 2026 drafts. The Spurs' and Lakers' interest in Young has cooled in recent months, sources said, but such doors never close shut.

As is, Young at 25 could be the oldest member of a potential starting five featuring Dyson Daniels, Risacher, Jalen Johnson and Onyeka Okongwu. Johnson is 22 with All-Star potential. He and Risacher could develop into an explosive, complementary pairing at forward. Young could lead a fun, up-tempo team that might be ready to peak by the middle of his prime.

Don't put that starting five in pen. Clint Capela is still here, in the final year of his contract -- and on the trade market, sources said. De'Andre Hunter surely wants to start. Daniels' shaky shooting could make him wonky fit in an off-ball role next to Young. That said, Daniels is a natural in a fast-paced system, and his secondary playmaking -- and that of Johnson -- could get Young easier looks as Atlanta works to diversify its offense. Daniels is an elite defender, and Atlanta needs those around Young.

Bogdan Bogdanovic could start, but he can prop up the offense next to Kobe Bufkin while Young rests -- a chronic weak spot until Atlanta acquired Murray. The Hawks are optimistic Mouhamed Gueye -- their second-round pick in 2023 -- is ready to claim a rotation spot, sources said. Gueye and Vit Krejci could round out a decent bench rotation.

But where is it all going? There is a clear top eight in the East: the Boston Celtics, Knicks, Sixers, Milwaukee Bucks, Cavaliers, Magic, Pacers and Miami Heat. One of these teams will disappoint, but it's hard to see the Hawks soaring above the play-in. Meanwhile, they are way better than the dregs.

The development-based path out of the middle might be too slow for Young. The more aggressive one -- trading 2029 and 2031 first-round picks for vets -- might be too much, too soon. The Hawks might be heading for an inevitable decision point with Young.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/40583390/lowe-7-most-discussed-nba-teams-offseason

Been saying the same thing about the roster since the trade. Just disagree with the conclusion. Hawks win 45+ around a starting unit of TY/DD/ZR/JJ/OO. The bench is elite as a second unit featuring Bogi/DH/ Nance and maybe CC is he isn't moved. 

As an aside, how about an all alliteration lineup of:

DD/BB/JJ/OO/CC

LOL

[JayBirdHawk]

5 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

As an aside, how about an all alliteration lineup of:

DD/BB/JJ/OO/CC

LOL

Beautiful  

[macdaddy]

14 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

But where is it all going? There is a clear top eight in the East: the Boston Celtics, Knicks, Sixers, Milwaukee Bucks, Cavaliers, Magic, Pacers and Miami Heat. One of these teams will disappoint, but it's hard to see the Hawks soaring above the play-in. Meanwhile, they are way better than the dregs.

Cavs are one spyda injury away from lottery.  Pacers and Heat I don't believe in at all.

Knicks, Sixers, and Bucks are more talented than us but have a lot of questions marks.  Knicks have a whole team full of wings.  only bigs I see on their roster are randle, Robinson and Sims and they are always hurt 

I think we have a lot to prove but no one in the east outside of Boston is very scary to me.