2024 Hawks Offseason Thread: What's Next? 2024-25 Season Outlook.

[kg01]

32 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

Cavs are one spyda injury away from lottery.  Pacers and Heat I don't believe in at all.

Knicks, Sixers, and Bucks are more talented than us but have a lot of questions marks.  Knicks have a whole team full of wings.  only bigs I see on their roster are randle, Robinson and Sims and they are always hurt 

I think we have a lot to prove but no one in the east outside of Boston is very scary to me. 

Yeah my confidence in us elevating says more about the lack of confidence I have in other teams in the East.

Everybody assumes ORL will continue to ascend.  Well, everybody expected us to ascend a couple years ago too.  Things change from year to year.

CLE has fit issues just like we did.  And have a new coach.  PHI will be what they always are.  MIL has GLLLLenn.  Nuff said.  NYK?  I gotta believe there's some diminishing returns there on all the Villanova guys.   Plus, as you said, they got no bigs.  What they do with Randle could be the 'move' there.  

Need more?  I can keep going. 

[macdaddy]

It's interesting to see Dallas' approach compared to ours.  Instead of youth, dna, culture, team U they've gone out and gotten Kyrie, PJ, Gafford, Klay, and now Dinwiddie.  All players our org and to a large extent fans reject for various reasons.   But they can play and so far this approach has shown good returns.  It'll be interesting to see what happens to hawks and mavs this year. 

[Spud2nique]

2 hours ago, macdaddy said:

Pacers and Heat I don't believe in at all.

Squeeze me?- Hillbilly and Overcertain Haliburton. 

2 hours ago, kg01 said:

ascend

 

[Spud2nique]

2 hours ago, kg01 said:

ascend

 

2 hours ago, kg01 said:

Need more? 

I MIGHT!!!!

[Packfill]

On 7/20/2024 at 8:56 PM, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

Can anyone ID the black nikes Kobe is wearing?

[JayBirdHawk]

58 minutes ago, Packfill said:

Can anyone ID the black nikes Kobe is wearing?

Kobe??? .

That's Timothy, Trae's 14 year old brother.

[kg01]

4 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Kobe??? .

That's Timothy, Trae's 14 year old brother.

Details, sme-tails burd.  What about the kicks?

[bird_dirt]

36 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Kobe??? .

That's Timothy, Trae's 14 year old brother.

Why is Trae’s brother wearing Nike?! He’s getting traded. 

[kg01]

9 minutes ago, bird_dirt said:

Why is Trae’s brother wearing Nike?! He’s getting traded. 

I was thinking the same.

But if I'm them I tell adidas they don't own us all.  If you want lil bro in adidas, better pay the family plan$$$. 

[Packfill]

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Kobe??? .

That's Timothy, Trae's 14 year old brother.

Sorry.  Thought that was Kobe Bufkin!  Actually glad it is not because if it was I was going to say he looks smaller than listed height/weight.

[JayBirdHawk]

NBA Contracts: 16 (14 Guaranteed, 2 Unguaranteed)
PG: Trae Young, Kobe Bufkin,
SG: Zaccharie Risacher, Bogdan Bogdanovich, Garrison Mathews (UG)
SF: DeAndre Hunter, Dyson Daniels, Vit Krejčí, Mouhammed Gueye
PF: Jalen Johnson, Larry Nance Jr., David Roddy
C - Onyeka Okongwu, Clint Capela, Cody Zeller, Bruno Fernando (UG)

Two way contracts:
Seth Lundy(2W), Keaton Wallace (2W),

The rest:
Nikola Đurišić??

[RedDawg#8]

On 7/23/2024 at 1:56 PM, JayBirdHawk said:

Kobe??? .

That's Timothy, Trae's 14 year old brother.

I know Trae will be so proud if his brother excels at basketball, and at the same time be super salty if lil bro ends up bigger/taller than him lol

[JayBirdHawk]

NBA Contracts: 15 (14 Guaranteed, 1 Unguaranteed)
PG: Trae Young, Kobe Bufkin,
SG: Zaccharie Risacher, Bogdan Bogdanovich, Garrison Mathews (UG)
SF: DeAndre Hunter, Dyson Daniels, Vit Krejčí, Mouhammed Gueye
PF: Jalen Johnson, Larry Nance Jr., David Roddy
C - Onyeka Okongwu, Clint Capela, Cody Zeller

Two way contracts:
Seth Lundy(2W), Keaton Wallace (2W),

The rest:
Nikola Đurišić??

[AHF]

In the absence of a multiplayer trade, I am going to be surprised if Durisic is on the roster this year.  A 2-way feels like it doesn't represent a good career decision for him but the idea of us cutting Mathews for him just feels unlikely to me.  We'll see.

[JayBirdHawk]

NBA Contracts: 15 (14 Guaranteed, 1 Unguaranteed)
PG: Trae Young, Kobe Bufkin,
SG: Zaccharie Risacher, Bogdan Bogdanovich, Garrison Mathews (UG)
SF: DeAndre Hunter, Dyson Daniels, Vit Krejčí, Mouhammed Gueye
PF: Jalen Johnson, Larry Nance Jr., David Roddy
C - Onyeka Okongwu, Clint Capela, Cody Zeller

Two way contracts:
Seth Lundy(2W), Keaton Wallace (2W), Dominick Barlow (2W)

[Sothron]

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

NBA Contracts: 15 (14 Guaranteed, 1 Unguaranteed)
PG: Trae Young, Kobe Bufkin,
SG: Zaccharie Risacher, Bogdan Bogdanovich, Garrison Mathews (UG)
SF: DeAndre Hunter, Dyson Daniels, Vit Krejčí, Mouhammed Gueye
PF: Jalen Johnson, Larry Nance Jr., David Roddy
C - Onyeka Okongwu, Clint Capela, Cody Zeller

Two way contracts:
Seth Lundy(2W), Keaton Wallace (2W),

The rest:
Nikola Đurišić??

I've been told Nikola is most likely going to be "draft and stash" due to his injury. 

[JayBirdHawk]

3 minutes ago, Sothron said:

I've been told Nikola is most likely going to be "draft and stash" due to his injury. 

I've already updated, since we now have 3 2way players under contract.

[JayBirdHawk]

7 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

NBA Contracts: 15 (14 Guaranteed, 1 Unguaranteed)
PG: Trae Young, Kobe Bufkin,
SG: Zaccharie Risacher, Bogdan Bogdanovich, Garrison Mathews (UG)
SF: DeAndre Hunter, Dyson Daniels, Vit Krejčí, Mouhammed Gueye
PF: Jalen Johnson, Larry Nance Jr., David Roddy
C - Onyeka Okongwu, Clint Capela, Cody Zeller

Two way contracts:
Seth Lundy(2W), Keaton Wallace (2W), Dominick Barlow (2W)

Current Salary:

 

Now back under the LT and now have the NTMLE available.

Hard capped at $178.1 million (due to the Zeller SnT), so we can only use ~$8.5 mil of the $12 mil NTMLE.

[JayBirdHawk]

5 Teams Regretting the 2024 NBA Offseason

 

Atlanta Hawks

1 OF 5

 

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If the Atlanta Hawks' plan is to wallow in mediocrity while not controlling any of their draft picks for the next three years, then this organization is doing a bang-up job.

Atlanta did the smart thing by trading Dejounte Murray, yet took a draft-pick heavy return over actually improving the roster.

Last season with Trae Young on the floor without the players who either were traded or signed elsewhere (Murray, Saddiq Bey and AJ Griffin), the Hawks had a net rating of minus-4.3 in 698 possessions with a defensive rating of over 120.0 (18th percentile, via Cleaning the Glass).

Unless the Hawks do something else this summer, this looks like a team that will take a step back from the 36-46 record it mustered a year ago.

No. 1 overall pick Zaccharie Risacher's pro comparison is Harrison Barnes according to Bleacher Report draft expert Jonathan Wasserman, which isn't going to be enough to lift this team into the playoffs anytime soon. Clint Capela is entering the final year of his contract and there's been no extension yet for promising power forward Jalen Johnson.

Atlanta doesn't have the option to tank since the San Antonio Spurs own their first-round selection in 2025 and 2027, with the right to swap in 2026 due to the original trade for Murray.

There has to be another move coming for Atlanta, as this current roster isn't good enough to make the playoffs and won't even get a lottery pick to show for it.

The Hawks should be pursuing trades for veterans who complement Young and now have two extra first-round picks from the New Orleans Pelicans in order to do so.

As of now, this has been an extremely disappointing offseason for Atlanta with no real direction in sight.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10129450-5-teams-regretting-the-2024-nba-offseason

[JayBirdHawk]