2024 Hawks Offseason Thread: Draft Over: What's Next?

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[AHF]

28 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

I think today is 'Propose Dumb Trades for  Hawks Day':

1. Hawks should use the #1 pick to dump Trae's salary

2. Trae and JJ to Magic for WCJ, Black, Howard, 24 1st, 25 Denver 1st, 26 1st, 27 swap.

3. Murray and #1 for Ingram

4. Okongwu and #1 for Jarrett Allen (in a 3way with NOP and Cavs)

  

 

 

Just to be clear, these aren't trades you've made up but are ones you've seen online, correct?

[JayBirdHawk]

8 minutes ago, AHF said:

Just to be clear, these aren't trades you've made up but are ones you've seen online, correct?

I've seen online. My mind can't make up such things  (edited post to be clear)

[KB21]

21 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

Clingan’s team really trying to push out some propaganda 

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Howard,

Dwight? If so.. I’m in!  

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

(in a 3way

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

Are there any old schoolers in our office that drooled over Mark Eaton? If so, we are fcked!

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

As a Hawks fan I have no interest in any Grizz or Bulls player. Portland is a different story. I would do :

 

Blazers get: #1 + filler (Trent Forrest; 500k)

Hawks get : Shaedon Sharpe + #7 (6.3 mill)

 

If the #1 pick is slated to earn 10.5 mill and #7 would get 5.5 mill it would be about a 5 mill difference which evens out salaries but I’m not sure. @JayBirdHawk the student of the great pupil Bab the OG Fanatic of the Hawks, would you kindly chime in on this if I may? 

 

[kg01]

21 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

As a Hawks fan I have no interest in any Grizz or Bulls player. Portland is a different story. I would do :

 

Blazers get: #1 + filler (Trent Forrest; 500k)

Hawks get : Shaedon Sharpe + #7 (6.3 mill)

 

If the #1 pick is slated to earn 10.5 mill and #7 would get 5.5 mill it would be about a 5 mill difference which evens out salaries but I’m not sure. @JayBirdHawk the student of the great pupil Bab the OG Fanatic of the Hawks, would you kindly chime in on this if I may? 

 

Isn't Sharpe basically an American version of Rissach.... Resea .... uh, the French guy? 

[JeffS17]

2 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

I just don't see it man.  His shot is so slow and he's not even a good free throw shooter.  He's going to space the floor like Jonas Valančiūnas "spaces the floor", at best.

[Gray Mule]

7 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

I just don't see it man.  His shot is so slow and he's not even a good free throw shooter.  He's going to space the floor like Jonas Valančiūnas "spaces the floor", at best.

All Squawk posters know, if a player is not a good free throw shooter, then he's on my blacklist!!

[Spud2nique]

3 hours ago, kg01 said:

Isn't Sharpe basically an American version of Rissach.... Resea .... uh, the French guy? 

Is he? I honestly can’t comment on Risacher just because of the Luka craze. Every year folks wanna target the next finals prototype. Risacher might be more of a Nikola Tskitishvili than a Luka Nikola Vucekick(me in the balls now).. 

Sharpe is a lil monster bro. 2 way dude I think his game is mad strong. Just my 2 cents on dude.

[Spud2nique]

2 hours ago, Gray Mule said:

All Squawk posters know, if a player is not a good free throw shooter, then he's on my blacklist!!

gramps! Now I’m curious between Sarr, Risacher and Clingan (obviously not him now I know) who shot the highest ft%? Guessing Risacher out of the three.

[Spud2nique]

3 hours ago, kg01 said:

Isn't Sharpe basically an American version of Rissach.... Resea .... uh, the French guy? 

My whole thing is this way we have 2 shots at it. We get our future 3/2 in Sharpe, to basically replace Hunter and be what Hunter isn’t AND, we still get 3 picks higher(than where we were slated at 10)  on a player  like (Holland etc.) that fall into that juicy 6-12 range.

 

Two chances cuz let’s face it, our luck in the draft hasn’t been great outside of Trae for a minute. 
 

At the same time, with our luck we do this and Sarr turns into Giannis in 1.5 years.  

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

1. After making the run to the Eastern Conference Finals, some (not all) of the moves the Hawks have made have been detrimental to building and making the team better. They chose not to re-sign Delon Wright after the 2022 first-round loss to the Miami Heat. Wright was a very good backup point guard and an excellent point-of-attack defender, something Atlanta sorely misses. They could have re-signed him but chose not to. Wright is the kind of player that was a perfect fit on the team.

2. The biggest mistake though was making the Dejounte Murray trade. Murray is a very good player in his own right, but he and Young don't pair well together on the court.

3. Later that same summer they traded for Murray, Atlanta chose to trade Kevin Huerter, in what was a salary dump move. Huerter was one of the Hawks better young players and would help this team currently, but they traded him to Sacramento for a protected 1st round pick, Justin Holiday, and Mo Harkless. The Kings pick has not conveyed yet and neither Holiday or Harkless is on the team any longer.

4. At last year's trade deadline, Atlanta made a solid move to acquire Saddiq Bey from the Detroit Pistons. While Bey is a solid player, he is not always the best fit alongside Young because of his defense. As a rotational player, Bey fits fine and that is probably his best role.

5. Last summer, the Hawks traded forward John Collins in what should be considered another salary dump. Atlanta mismanaged Collins's situation and kept him in trade talks for too long. Collins, who is a really good player, only brought back a 2nd round pick and Rudy Gay.

6. After drafting Onyeka Okongwu 6th overall in the 2020 draft, they have kept Capela for too long and even extended him. Instead of trading Capela for assets and going with Okongwu at center, Atlanta is now paying two centers and Capela's trade value has gone down.

 

Not every move Atlanta has made has been bad, in all fairness. Drafting Jalen Johnson and Okongwu have been good moves and both Kobe Bufkin and Mouhamed Gueye have shown promise.

 

 

The lesson here should be that the Hawks can win with Trae Young if they put the right pieces around him and they have the opportunity to do so this summer. Atlanta won the NBA Draft Lottery and while this draft does not have a top tier prospect like Victor Wembanyama or Zion Williamson, it is full of complementary pieces that would fit great alongside Young. Alex Sarr, Zaccharie Risacher, or Donovan Clingan would all be good complementary pieces to pair with Young. Jalen Johnson has emerged as a future star player, giving the Hawks two high-level talents.

There are other ways for the Hawks to add talent as well. If they intend to keep Young, trading Murray for assets would help the team. Capela and De'Andre Hunter are also candidates to be traded this offseason. What those trade returns will look like, I can't be sure, but they could be role players or picks.

[bird_dirt]

2 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

gramps! Now I’m curious between Sarr, Risacher and Clingan (obviously not him now I know) who shot the highest ft%? Guessing Risacher out of the three.

For you and @Gray Mule, last I saw FT%, Sarr was tops at over 70%. Risacher was second at around 68%, and I don’t know Clingan’s but I’m sure it was below 68%. 

[Spud2nique]

10 minutes ago, bird_dirt said:

Risacher was second at around 68%,

wtf, that stinks for who is supposed to be.

[JustSomeGuy]

21 hours ago, benhillboy said:

I love GP2 but he should walk around with a training table strapped to his back.

And the guys we already have, don’t? 

[JTB]

10 hours ago, NBASupes said:

1 for 4 and 8 is my dream

This is very risky but I know one of the picks for you at 4 or 8 is Edey which is likely at 8.

As you and everyone else knows by now I’m good with Edey but who do you have at #4 ?

The biggest risk in trading the #1 pick is missing out on Sarr or Clingan and then being surprised if a team does take Edey higher then his prediction which all could very well happen.

im not worried about the media, I know Edey is high on some teams big board outside of Atlanta just like there are reports about a ton of lottery teams wanting Clingan aka the shooting Rudy Gobert.

Anyways who’s the 4th pick? Edey clearly is your 8th pick in this scenario.

[Vol4ever]

8 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

Are there any old schoolers in our office that drooled over Mark Eaton? If so, we are fcked!

Hell no but I was in Dallas on business when we picked Koncak.  Lol