2024 Summer League Roster and Games.

[kg01]

6 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

He's there to hit the casino and the clubs. Don't got time for Hawks. 

I'm pretty sure it's 'fashionable' for the higher level NBA guys to show up later in SL to games.

[JayBirdHawk]

3 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Bronnie >> Reed

Seriously though, I wouldn't be surprised if Bronnie ends up with a fake injury to spare them all the embarrassment of pitting him against real NBA players.

And don't start on the lebron hate.  He didn't invent nepotism.  He didn't even invent nepotism in the nba.

They need to just let him play the season in the GL.

[Packfill]

38 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

He isn't ready...His basketball skills are  limited

He will absolutely take some lumps this season and no question he needs to work on his game and his body, but he is still the second best small forward on the roster right now.  

My expectation is the Hawks will not want to send him to College Park even if it would be good for him just because they won't want it to seem like the #1 pick can't play in the NBA.  He will likely get 15 minutes a night backing up Hunter and then his minutes will spike when he starts while Hunter has his annual 20+ game injury list stint.  His numbers won't look good at the end of the season but his pro experience means at least he will know how to play team basketball.

[kg01]

12 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

They need to just let him play the season in the GL.

I'm not sure he's even good enough for that. 

[TheNorthCydeRises]

10 hours ago, Sothron said:

I liked what I saw from the two actual prospects. 

Summer League, to me, is confirming what the strengths of your game is.  

If you're touted as a shooter, I want to see if you can knock down shots.  If you're a rim protector, you better be making it hard for people to score around the basket.

Zacch showed good scoring versatility and was decent on defense. The little behind the back pass to the player for the attempted corner 3, is a type of play a player makes when he's totally comfortable about what he can do. He made about 2 or 3 other passes to open players that the normal rookie wouldn't make, let alone a 19 year old. I liked the fact that his game just looked mature and just wasn't out there playing wild as hell

Zarr showed that his defense is legit. Good on the ball and very good awareness around the rim.  Those back to back blocks were outstanding.  And for a guy that people said had very little offense, he looked decent to me. Knocked down a midrange jumper and 2 threes with shot mechanics that looked pretty good. Even had some nice passes that led to assists.

 

Good showing by both players, in my opinion.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

11 hours ago, Atlantaholic said:

*sigh* If only Reed Sheppard was  6'7' we could have drafted a star SG. Not convinced ZR is every going to be anything other than average offensively. Hopefully as he gets older he gets stronger too. 

After 1 summer league game?

[TheNorthCydeRises]

10 hours ago, NBASupes said:

He gotta work on them legs. I had insanely strong legs and I never was on my back ever. Bro was on his back more than a OF model

 

Pause and PAUSE

 

10 hours ago, NBASupes said:

He gotta work on them legs. I had insanely strong legs and I never was on my back ever. Bro was on his back more than a OF model

 

Pause and PAUSE

 

[TheNorthCydeRises]

1 hour ago, Peoriabird said:

Zacch needs to polish his skills in college park this year

No way we send the #1 pick to College Park.

That means we picked the wrong player.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

1 hour ago, Peoriabird said:

It's not a question of whether he played bad or good..He just doesn't have the skill yet. Shaking handles which his offense is limited to catch and shoot. No midrange, no post ups, Limited vision. The one drive he attempted in traffic when he tried a left handed lay up was Capela like. He needs time.

 

Just making sure we were watching the same guy.  Specifically pay attention to the pass to Windler for the 3.  There are about 11 players on our current roster that doesn't make this pass to the open man.

Edited July 13 by TheNorthCydeRises

[Spud2nique]

Another thing I liked about BOTH Zac and Niko was the handle. Hunter needs to hang out and learn from these dudes. Niko was a lil loose with it last night.

 

Zacc though, I saw him a few times with ball pressure on him in tight spaces and I was thinking how is he gonna dribble out of this and somehow he ended up getting loose and either creating his shot or making a play, honestly it reminded me of..

 

Dude is a better dribbler than I thought. He’s better than Klay for sure and that’s big. If he can’t shoot with that quick release, get himself out of trouble with the dribble, he’s gonna be tough. Skilled young man here in Zacc. He’s gonna do it the smart efficient way. 

 

[kg01]

1 minute ago, Spud2nique said:

Another thing I liked about BOTH Zac and Niko was the handle. Hunter needs to hang out and learn from these dudes. Niko was a lil loose with it last night.

 

Zacc though, I saw him a few times with ball pressure on him in tight spaces and I was thinking how is he gonna dribble out of this and somehow he ended up getting loose and either creating his shot or making a play, honestly it reminded me of..

 

Dude is a better dribbler than I thought. He’s better than Klay for sure and that’s big. If he can’t shoot with that quick release, get himself out of trouble with the dribble, he’s gonna be tough. Skilled young man here in Zacc. He’s gonna do it the smart efficient way. 

 

Maybe they can teach Hunter a few things this offseason.

[theheroatl]

Getting Reed and Zac would’ve been massive.. both will be great but at least Reed is in Houston not the east.

[Spud2nique]

18 minutes ago, theheroatl said:

Getting Reed and Zac would’ve been massive.. both will be great but at least Reed is in Houston not the east.

Ya Reed came off looking like Price! Brent.. 

 

mama ohhhhh shiiii 

[NBASupes]

Saying Risacher needs CP is [wrong]. Shit, he was massively more impressive than any other rookie we drafted in their 1st game in SL since, idk shit. Ever. No one from the Hawks looks good in SL as rookies in their first game. Risacher looked good and it was clear if we had a PG, he would look a lot better. 

[NBASupes]

12 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

 

Just making sure we were watching the same guy.  Specifically pay attention to the pass to Windler for the 3.  There are about 11 players on our current roster that doesn't make this pass to the open man.

[] Risacher left me we a really good taste, pause. More than any rookie I can recall us drafting after game 1 in SL. He's actually good at Basketball 

[Peoriabird]

11 hours ago, NBASupes said:

[] Risacher left me we a really good taste, pause. More than any rookie I can recall us drafting after game 1 in SL. He's actually good at Basketball 

We shall see

[NBASupes]

11 hours ago, Peoriabird said:

We shall see

Saying he has no skills is [very wrong]. His skills are already on display

[NBASupes]

3 hours ago, theheroatl said:

I think his ceiling is higher than MPJ. 
 

he can average 24-7-5 if he is efficient. That’s in Lauri and Siakam territory.

 

Its not that hard.. Franz Wagner was my closest comp for him coming in and Wagner is already a huge part of the Magic

He's going to be better than MPJ. I think I underrated Risacher and he was #1 on my board for a minute. Overtook Reed but was overtaken by Edey. His ability on the ball is just a lot better than I have in my scout. Everything else is correct but that's significantly off. He's legit good in space. I really didn't think he was in my scout but then again, he was rarely in space in France. He was surrounded by non shooters. He's gonna be a problem. Maybe he could win ROY, I had Edey winning it running away.

Edited July 13 by NBASupes

[NBASupes]

2 hours ago, AHF said:

We need him in Atlanta.  I don’t think he will spend much time in College Park, if any.

He won't spend a second in College Park. He's like Horford, he's gonna come in and you plug him into the starting lineup right now and you get better. 

[NBASupes]

Wemby SL stats - https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Victor-Wembanyama/Summary/136048

 

Risacher SL stats - https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Zaccharie-Risacher/Summary/175806