ABH Posted June 27 Report Share Posted June 27 Build up,Build up, Build up ....and nothing !!! Hawks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Posted June 27 Report Share Posted June 27 (edited) Why is the insider thread locked? Where am I supposed to react to the Insiders saying..... Ayton.....is someone to watch. Ugh. ETA: Ah I see the new one. Edited June 27 by Afro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted June 27 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 27 1 minute ago, Afro said: Why is the insider thread locked? Where am I supposed to react to the Insiders saying..... Ayton.....is someone to watch. Ugh. ETA: Ah I see the new one. @AHF can you add Soth's last post to the new thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted June 27 Report Share Posted June 27 Good news is now Marvin Williams can escape all that draft hate. Risacher's 1st bar is now "be better than Marvin Williams". 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thecampster Posted June 27 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 27 1) apologies for getting stuck in the insider thread last night. I was on my phone and missed this separate thread. 2) I'd like it noted for the permanent record what could have come out of this draft. Had the Hawks executed a 1 for 7/14 and filler swap, they could have had any two of Clingan/Edey paired with Buzelis, Dillingham, Williams, Topic, Carter, Knecht, da Silva. When we autopsy this draft, remember to compare Risacher with any combination of 2 of those players + possible additional assets and at a lower cap hit. 3) If we pulled off the 1 for 4/8 you can add Castle, Holland, Salaun's names to the list at a slightly higher cost. I'm not saying Risacher is a bad player or won't work out. What I am saying is I'm sick over our terrible draft/cap strategy, player evaluation. We're cap locked right now and a for a few years going forward. This front office needs to show me/us/the fans something over the next few weeks. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post JeffS17 Posted June 27 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted June 27 Enjoying a croissant with my morning coffee 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phunkabilly Posted June 27 Report Share Posted June 27 45 minutes ago, thecampster said: 1) apologies for getting stuck in the insider thread last night. I was on my phone and missed this separate thread. 2) I'd like it noted for the permanent record what could have come out of this draft. Had the Hawks executed a 1 for 7/14 and filler swap, they could have had any two of Clingan/Edey paired with Buzelis, Dillingham, Williams, Topic, Carter, Knecht, da Silva. When we autopsy this draft, remember to compare Risacher with any combination of 2 of those players + possible additional assets and at a lower cap hit. 3) If we pulled off the 1 for 4/8 you can add Castle, Holland, Salaun's names to the list at a slightly higher cost. I'm not saying Risacher is a bad player or won't work out. What I am saying is I'm sick over our terrible draft/cap strategy, player evaluation. We're cap locked right now and a for a few years going forward. This front office needs to show me/us/the fans something over the next few weeks. Yeah, I'm pretty irritated that we didn't execute the 1 for 4/8... once Clingan fell to 4, I figured it was a no-brainer and thought for sure we would pull the trigger. It woulda been real nice to add Buzelis to Clingan and help your center and wing problems in one fell swoop. The only rationale I can think of for not pulling the trigger is that the Hawks had Risacher in his own tier... but from everything we've heard up to this point, they had several guys ranked close together, including Clingan. Grrrrrrr..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted June 27 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 27 Day #2 at 4PM today: Order: 2024 NBA Draft order − Day 2, Round 2 Toronto Raptors (from Detroit via New York and LA Clippers) Utah Jazz (from Washington via Detroit and Brooklyn) Milwaukee Bucks (from Portland via Sacramento) Portland Trail Blazers (from Charlotte via Denver, Oklahoma City and New Orleans) San Antonio Spurs Indiana Pacers (from Toronto via Philadelphia, LA Clippers and Memphis) Minnesota Timberwolves (from Memphis via Los Angeles Lakers, Washington and Oklahoma City) New York Knicks (from Utah) Memphis Grizzlies (from Brooklyn via Houston) Portland Trail Blazers (from Atlanta) Philadelphia 76ers (from Chicago via Boston, San Antonio and New Orleans) Charlotte Hornets (from Houston via Oklahoma City) Miami Heat Houston Rockets (from Golden State via Atlanta) Sacramento Kings LA Clippers (from Indiana via Memphis and Milwaukee) Orlando Magic San Antonio Spurs (from Los Angeles Lakers via Memphis) — Philadelphia (forfeited) Indiana Pacers (from Cleveland) Indiana Pacers (from New Orleans) Washington Wizards (from Phoenix) Golden State Warriors (from Milwaukee via Indiana) Detroit Pistons (from New York via Philadelphia and Charlotte) Boston Celtics (from Dallas via Sacramento) Los Angeles Lakers (from LA Clippers) Denver Nuggets (from Minnesota via Oklahoma City) Memphis Grizzlies (from Oklahoma City via Houston and Atlanta) — Phoenix Suns (from Denver via Orlando; forfeited by Phoenix) Dallas Mavericks (from Boston via Charlotte) Best of the Rest. 1. Kyle Filipowski, Duke Blue Devils Bigs with Filipowski’s diverse offensive skill set are hard to find, with the 6’11” big man capable of handling the ball, shooting the three and distributing. He’s also not as stiff of a defender as he’s perceived, actually holding his own well against switches while at Duke. There could be some lingering concern about the double hip surgery he underwent last April, but assuming medicals are clear, he’s well worth a pick early in the second. 2. Johnny Furphy, Kansas Jayhawks Furphy slipping out of the first round was a surprise, as the Kansas product was seen as an option as high as the late teens. He’s an athletic slasher who settled into a valuable role for the Jayhawks this season after reclassifying from the 2024 high school class into ’23. Furphy’s far from a finished product, but should come off the board quickly Thursday. 3. Tyler Kolek, Marquette Golden Eagles Teams hunting a second unit point guard would be smart to target Kolek, one of the best passers in the draft. As a four-year college player with athletic limitations, Kolek’s ceiling is fairly low. That may have kept him out of the first round, but Kolek shouldn’t fall long given his IQ, competitiveness and ability to get teammates involved. 4. Cam Christie, Minnesota Golden Gophers Christie’s brother, Max, was a fringe first-rounder in 2022 who fell to No. 35 overall on draft night. Cam Christie faces a similar fate. His slender frame may make it hard for him to make a significant impact as a rookie, but Cam Christie was extremely impressive on film in his lone season at Minnesota and profiles as a big-time shooter long term. 5. Justin Edwards, Kentucky Wildcats It would’ve been hard to imagine Edwards sliding to Day 2 of the draft when he enrolled at Kentucky last summer, but that’s the fate he faces after a disappointing year in Lexington. Edwards still possesses a good deal of upside given his size and slashing ability, but using his elite physical tools more consistently has been an issue since his time as a top high school recruit. Someone will roll the dice here. 6. Adem Bona, UCLA Bruins Centers have come off the board quickly in this draft, with Zach Edey, Kel’el Ware and DaRon Holmes II all drafted at the top of their projected ranges. That could spell good news for Bona, the freakishly athletic Turkish big man whose speed and explosiveness off the floor makes him an intriguing defensive prospect. If he falls to No. 38, the New York Knicks are an obvious fit given their need for a big and Tom Thibodeau’s emphasis on the defensive side. 7. Tyler Smith, G League Ignite Smith played third fiddle behind Ron Holland and Matas Buzelis on the G League Ignite and was thought to be a strong candidate to land in the late first round. Instead, he’s available on Day 2. Smith is an interesting dice roll given his shooting ability, but it feels like he’s a long ways away from making a consistent two-way impact. 8. Keshad Johnson, Arizona Wildcats Johnson is a highly accomplished college player, with a trip to the national title game at San Diego State before wrapping his career up with a huge season at Arizona. He’s an explosive athlete who defends multiple positions thanks to his plus length and mobility, and his three-point shot improved by leaps and bounds last season. Expect him to find a way as a role player at the next level. 9. Cam Spencer, UConn Huskies Spencer struggled in the NBA draft combine scrimmages, but was such a fantastic player for UConn in the Huskies’ run to the national title this spring. He’s one of the most spirited competitors this college basketball writer can remember, and he adds value on the floor as a high-feel guy who shoots the lights out from three. He’s worth a guaranteed contract. 10. Jonathan Mogbo, San Francisco Dons Mogbo is a unique player, an undersized forward who can handle the ball and pass but lacks an outside shot. It’s going to take the right team context to find the best way of maximizing his funky game, but if things break right, Mogbo could go down as a Day 2 steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted June 27 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 27 Who are you favorites in the 2nd round? Should the Hawks buy or trade for a 2nd round pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Vol4ever Posted June 27 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 27 All I can say is smdh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member AtLaS Posted June 27 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 27 11 hours ago, terrell said: Didnt you say you were done if we picked Risacher too? @Peoriabird and a few others should be gone.. lol Haha, naw. I could never stop following this team even though they drive me crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member HawkingAwesome Posted June 27 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 27 1 hour ago, JeffS17 said: Enjoying a croissant with my morning coffee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkish Posted June 27 Report Share Posted June 27 38 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Who are you favorites in the 2nd round? Should the Hawks buy or trade for a 2nd round pick? I hope to see us buy a 2nd. Take a chance on developing a player that fell that can contribute on a relatively-light contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4wkfan Posted June 27 Report Share Posted June 27 43 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Who are you favorites in the 2nd round? Should the Hawks buy or trade for a 2nd round pick? 100% would get back in for Jamal Shead or Reece Beekman. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theheroatl Posted June 27 Report Share Posted June 27 44 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Who are you favorites in the 2nd round? Should the Hawks buy or trade for a 2nd round pick? They should do trades, but not into the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers Posted June 27 Report Share Posted June 27 (edited) After sleeping on it, I just hope Zaccarie shuts me all the way up If he turns out to be great, I will gladly eat crow!!! Edited June 27 by Bonkers 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted June 27 Report Share Posted June 27 8 minutes ago, h4wkfan said: 100% would get back in for Jamal Shead or Reece Beekman. Get me Reese, the American Rissacher. Did the other UVA guy get drafted? Dunn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted June 27 Moderators Report Share Posted June 27 I'm happy with Zach actually. Good shooting wings with size and D are always valuable. Sarr is going to be better but we know what happened there. Clingan going 7 tells you what the NBA thinks of his potential. Good but not great. To me Zach or Matas were the only real choices for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted June 27 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 27 20 minutes ago, macdaddy said: I'm happy with Zach actually. Good shooting wings with size and D are always valuable. Sarr is going to be better but we know what happened there. Clingan going 7 tells you what the NBA thinks of his potential. Good but not great. To me Zach or Matas were the only real choices for us. Zac or Zacc or Zacch - let's start it off right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted June 27 Report Share Posted June 27 3 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Zacc of Zacch - let's start it off right. I sense copious amounts of Zack Morris gifs and references in my future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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