Afro Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 (edited) Idk what team y'all "expecting a good outcome from a risky situation" folks have been following, but it most certainly hasn't been the Hawks lol. Edited July 5 by Afro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kg01 Posted July 5 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 5 Just now, Afro said: Idk what fanbase y'all "expecting a good outcome from a risky situation" folks have been following, but it most certainly hasn't been the Hawks lol. Yeah, you know when you roll the dice and it comes up snake-eyes? I heard there's a petition circling to change it to 'hawk-eyes'. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 7 minutes ago, hylndr11 said: Thing is aytom doesn't get his own shit, he's.not a creator or playmaker, this is the big debate in Portland whether to build around him or not and you have a fanbase on 2 completely different ends of the spectrum, ayton has.tons of skill but he hast really improved enough, he still can't dribble, his ceiling is being the third best guy becaue he can be taken away easily enough. There's actually a big thread on NBA reddit focused just on him and you get lots of objective info on him there. https://www.reddit.com/r/nbadiscussion/s/iCXhinmz1q When I say Ayton can get his own shot. I'm not saying create his own shot. If you just get the ball to him in his spots he can get his shot. I'm not sure if that makes sense. Essentially he's not Capela where the only thing he can do is dunk lobs. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NBASupes Posted July 5 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 5 3 minutes ago, Afro said: Idk what team y'all "expecting a good outcome from a risky situation" folks have been following, but it most certainly hasn't been the Hawks lol. You make a good point but we really don't have a better option and the reward is just as massive as the risk. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Final_quest Posted July 5 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 5 Just now, Spud2nique said: This! The 1st and 5th players taken in the 2018 draft. This might resurrect Ayton’s career. I mean, when he came onto the scene he was supposed to be Shaq-lite ish, Trae can unlock that I believe. I haven’t heard any specific locker room disruptions or anything but I recall him and Monty feuding during that finals run. He needs a coach like Quin also to really keep him focused and locked in. Ya this is a good gamble for us. I was not nor am I the biggest Ayton fan in the world but the fit seems flawless. We have invested everything into a team that fits Trae. Ayton is a gamble, but running it back sounds like a worse option. On the court this idea works at least. Best way to reach someone is to show you believe in them and give them an opportunity. Ayton being featured more I think is what could make this work. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deester11 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 14 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: This seems to be our lot in life....settling for leftovers and putting on ...but we should be ok with it. I'm tired man! Jay...we been singing the same thing. Yet, aren't we supposed to buy into Hawks DNA. The essence of that phrase is irritating. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShooterSays Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 Doesn't look like Ingram to ATL is dead yet either - The Spurs and Hornets are among teams showing interest in Brandon Ingram, per AmicoHoops “Sources have told Hoops Wire that the San Antonio Spurs and Charlotte Hornets have emerged as potential Ingram suitors, as have the Atlanta Hawks, who will soon officially move guard Dejounte Murray to New Orleans. Perhaps that trade could be expanded if the Hawks are truly that interested in Ingram.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 PG- Trae/? (Buf gone then vet FA via trade) SG- Bogi/Daniels SF- Risacher/(VETERAN FA OR TRADE) PF- JJ/Gueye C-Ayton/OO Lets get it done 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deester11 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 15 minutes ago, Spud2nique said: @kg01 if you ever make it out to Cali, I’d like to take you camping , ahhhhh the great outdoors.. we would have a blast ! No rules! Spud. Can we go one day without these overtures??? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spud2nique Posted July 5 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 5 3 minutes ago, marco102 said: When I say Ayton can get his own shot. I'm not saying create his own shot. If you just get the ball to him in his spots he can get his shot. I'm not sure if that makes sense. Essentially he's not Capela where the only thing he can do is dunk lobs. If Capela handle and creating his own shots in his own space is a 5/10, Ayton is easily an 8/10, possibly a 9/10, he can put bigs in the blender or simply take them outside he’s got a nice stroke. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Final_quest Posted July 5 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, NBASupes said: You make a good point but we really don't have a better option and the reward is just as massive as the risk. Exactly. We have a possible big reward. With status quo it’s a near certain failure. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NBASupes Posted July 5 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, ShooterSays said: Doesn't look like Ingram to ATL is dead yet either - The Spurs and Hornets are among teams showing interest in Brandon Ingram, per AmicoHoops “Sources have told Hoops Wire that the San Antonio Spurs and Charlotte Hornets have emerged as potential Ingram suitors, as have the Atlanta Hawks, who will soon officially move guard Dejounte Murray to New Orleans. Perhaps that trade could be expanded if the Hawks are truly that interested in Ingram.” It's dead. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 1 minute ago, Spud2nique said: If Capela handle and creating his own shots in his own space is a 5/10, Ayton is easily an 8/10, possibly a 9/10, he can put bigs in the blender or simply take them outside he’s got a nice stroke. We are of the same mind today @Spud2nique . @Afro I should add, that your concerns are legit. I just think Ayton raises the floor and ceiling of this team with his flaws and all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 Just now, Final_quest said: Exactly. We have a possible big reward. With status quo it’s a near certain failure. Unless Risacher is an overnight sensation, it's hard to see how we are significantly better. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTime Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 3 minutes ago, Spud2nique said: PG- Trae/? (Buf gone then vet FA via trade) SG- Bogi/Daniels SF- Risacher/(VETERAN FA OR TRADE) PF- JJ/Gueye C-Ayton/OO Lets get it done Looks like we are keeping Hunter. 1 minute ago, NBASupes said: It's dead. So Ayton to ATL is gonna be official soon? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spud2nique Posted July 5 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 5 Ayton>Ingram for me easily. Inside presence who spaces the floor more for shooters like Bogi and Zacc. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg#8 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 9 minutes ago, NBASupes said: Liddell and Gueye are likely to be JJ backups as well as OO playing spot mins at the 4 with Dre. I think Dre will get a lot of run at 4 as well as a featured role with the reserves where he can look for his own shot. I do like Gueye though. Nance would have been a nice add as a vet presence at 4/5 with size and shooting. I do think a veteran presence would be an essential add on a team with Trae/Ayton, not to mention how important DJ was for JJ’s growth and confidence. We need another respected voice in a locker room full of young talented players. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 4 minutes ago, NBASupes said: You make a good point but we really don't have a better option and the reward is just as massive as the risk. I completely get where y'all are coming from and I'm not 100% anti-Ayton. But the "it's our only option" is a failure by this FO and I, personally, am quite terrified of compounding that failure by taking the riskiest deal we can find. PS: Are y'all not the least bit concerned that there's only one team and one deal to be made with the pieces we have left....and we're also projecting that deal to be good for us? Why tf is Portland so interested in giving up Ayton for pieces that no one else can make a deal with? That's not a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NBASupes Posted July 5 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 5 Just now, GameTime said: Looks like we are keeping Hunter. So Ayton to ATL is gonna be official soon? Idk. I've just heard talks. Ayton contract makes him untouchable right now for most teams so it's really just Atlanta that's interested. It's funny because the cost is likely the same as it was last year. Expirings and a top 15-20 center. In that case Nurkic, this one, Capela. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 Just now, Afro said: I completely get where y'all are coming from and I'm not 100% anti-Ayton. But the "it's our only option" is a failure by this FO and I, personally, am quite terrified of compounding that failure by taking the riskiest deal we can find. PS: Are y'all not the least bit concerned that there's only one team and one deal to be made with the pieces we have left....and we're also projecting that deal to be good for us? Why tf is Portland so interested in giving up Ayton for pieces that no one else can make a deal with? That's not a good sign. Centers who are under good contracts are extremely expensive. The 2nd apron era and even the 1st one has teams wanting to stay under the LT no matter what unless they are 100% contenders. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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