2024-25 Insider Thread

[NekiEcko]

4 minutes ago, Afro said:

Where is the 30 million youll need to get Lavine? 

(37 million salary-what space Im assuming we currently have). 

Are y'all doing a Capela-Bogi for Lavine deal? I don't think I am. But if you're trading Hunter for Allen, thats about all thats left. 

Its going to be Clint and Hunter and that is it after that.

[Final_quest]

4 minutes ago, Afro said:

I'm of the mindset that we shouldnt be trading every single 1st we're allowed under the Stepien forever. 

Sorry, I should have added that to the original post. That's kind of what I meant. 

Having five makes it easier to trade two or three of them.  Cavs traded three firsts for Mitchell originally.  
Can’t figure out what they want to do with Trae.  If they don’t trade him, maybe they gave him a reality check or they traded Murray for picks so we could go after some bigger stars.  

[Afro]

1 minute ago, Final_quest said:

Having five makes it easier to trade two or three of them.  Cavs traded three firsts for Mitchell originally.  
Can’t figure out what they want to do with Trae.  If they don’t trade him, maybe they gave him a reality check or they traded Murray for picks so we could go after some bigger stars.  

That's fair, but I'm still not doing that. We already can't tank because of the first DJM deal. You wanna push that deadline out to 2032? 

3 minutes ago, NekiEcko said:

Its going to be Clint and Hunter and that is it after that.

Then no thanks on Lavine lol. 

[JayBirdHawk]

10 minutes ago, ShooterSays said:

Jarrett Allen & Zach LaVine

Both can be reasonably had and both address key holes in the roster.

We need someone to replace the 20 ppg scoring we just lost and need someone who can replace ECF Capela interior defense.

 

9 minutes ago, theheroatl said:

I’m onboard with something like this. Jarrett Allen is target #1 at this point

 

7 minutes ago, Afro said:

Where is the 30 million youll need to get Lavine? 

(37 million salary-what space Im assuming we currently have). 

Are y'all doing a Capela-Bogi for Lavine deal? I don't think I am. But if you're trading Hunter for Allen, thats about all thats left. 

It would have to be at least a 3 teamer:

Lavine and Allen to Hawks

Hunter to Cavs

CC to Bulls

I haven't checked our salaries so maybe we have to send just acquired Nance to a 4th team or Bulls.

[ShooterSays]

8 minutes ago, Afro said:

Where is the 30 million youll need to get Lavine? 

(37 million salary-what space Im assuming we currently have). 

Are y'all doing a Capela-Bogi for Lavine deal? I don't think I am. But if you're trading Hunter for Allen, thats about all thats left. 

Can probably salary match it, but it’ll cost picks. Idk.

But right now, we’re about to gift wrap 3 high lottery picks to SA.

[Afro]

2 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

It would have to be at least a 3 teamer:

Lavine and Allen to Hawks

Hunter to Cavs

CC to Bulls

I haven't checked our salaries so maybe we have to send just acquired Nance to a 4th team or Bulls.

Lavine and Allen make a combined 60 million

2 minutes ago, ShooterSays said:

Can probably salary match it, but it’ll cost picks. Idk.

But right now, we’re about to gift wrap 3 high lottery picks to SA.

Salary matching is my point though. Bogi is the only other salary we've got lol. 

[KB21]

 

[KB21]

Really?   We have some wanting Lavine now?

[JayBirdHawk]

1 minute ago, Afro said:

Lavine and Allen make a combined 60 million

CC, Dre, Nance is about $54 million. So I think we'd still remain under the tax.

[Afro]

48 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

Thats your perspective. Mine is Landry held firm wanting an overpay and likely almost got it. You dont win trades if you dont try… not Landrys fault Pels are not stupid. Herb would be an overpay.

You guys are so negative lol… this is fair value, makes us better by improving roster fit, and we have assets that give is flexibility.  This isnt some incredible trade but its not a bad one either.

I could just as easily say you are overly optimistic. "Fair" value is tbd. 

We traded for a guy that played 17 minutes in the playoffs last year and Larry Nance. 

We're praying that a team with 2 superstars completely misses the playoffs to pull value out of this deal. 

 

To me, that is 100% TBD at best. 

Edited June 29 by Afro

[Afro]

4 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

CC, Dre, Nance is about $54 million. So I think we'd still remain under the tax.

Put now we have a MASSIVE hole at PF lol. 

Edited June 29 by Afro

[aali34]

37 minutes ago, ATLHawks3 said:

I think so. Dyson's on-ball defense is one of the best for a guard in the NBA. The only problem was that he was somewhat blocked behind Herb Jones and Brandon Ingram for the last two years.

 

We can offer a bigger role to him than what he's shown so far in NOLA now that DJ is gone.

Ehhh, Ima need to see some solid shooting from him if thats the case.

[ShooterSays]

5 minutes ago, Afro said:

Salary matching is my point though. Bogi is the only other salary we've got lol. 

I obviously didn't get into the picks side of things, but salary wise it's very possible.

[KB21]

 

[Afro]

1 minute ago, ShooterSays said:

I obviously didn't get into the picks side of things, but salary wise it's very possible.

Im not positive of our current tax situation, but if we lump this but if we're starting from the point of "pre-Pels" trade, I don't think 2.6 gets us under. Could very much be wrong though lol. 

[ShooterSays]

7 minutes ago, KB21 said:

Really?   We have some wanting Lavine now?

Without tanking, I challenge you to find a better realistic way out of this hell hole.

edit: "realistic"

Edited June 29 by ShooterSays

[NekiEcko]

Why are we even entertaining this notion? Why in the world would we want Z. LaVine for?  

[Afro]

1 minute ago, ShooterSays said:

Without tanking, I challenge you to find a better way out of this hell hole.

You're barking up the wrong rigid tree my man 

[KB21]

 

[ShooterSays]

1 minute ago, NekiEcko said:

Why in the world would we want Z. LaVine for?

Because we just lost a 20 ppg scorer and got back a project at best who can't shoot.