2024-25 Insider Thread

[BangHolman]

13 minutes ago, gurpilo said:

I agree with that, I always thought he would be a great fit here but as backup Big, I don't see him starting.

He always goes off against us

[JayBirdHawk]

50 minutes ago, KB21 said:

The center I would target is Jalen Smith.  

Had him as a TPE target earlier.

[Bonzaii58]

36 minutes ago, JTB said:

I don’t mind a trade for Jarrett Allen at all but again where is your secondary bucket getter in this lineup???

Trae, Daniels, Risacher, Jalen, Allen

do you guys really believe Risacher and Jalen can be hi to scorers when Trae is trapped ?? Because that lineup absolutely puts that pressure on them.

i just don’t think they are ready for that and it’s asking for a lot out of them.

I have this concern too. After taking some time and thinking over this trade a little more I think there has to be another move to be made.
 

I really wanted us to get Herb from the Pelicans and the fact that we couldn’t find a way to do that or even bring in Ingram (who I really didn’t want anyway but at least he is a scorer) tells me they simply did not want him. It does not mean they could not have gotten him but there may be another player via trade or FA they’d prefer to have. We gave up Murray but still have Hunter, Capela, and OO who are all expendable via trade and could be flipped for someone much better.
 

Anyway, I  think we could have gotten Ingram but maybe it doesn’t match with Landry’s vision. And whatever it is I hope we all see it within the next week before we all lose our minds

Edited June 29 by Bonzaii58

[Bonzaii58]

22 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

If it's not one thing it's another. We are going to need a secondary ball handler with Murray gone. Dont know if Bufkin is up to that task.

Agreed. Delon Wright and Tyus Jones are people that come to mind for me. 

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[deester11]

Wait..we got EJ Liddell too? Did LF win the trade?

[hylndr11]

10 hours ago, ShooterSays said:

Alternatively and more realistically:

Daniels probably never develops a shot so his impact is limited, Lebron and AD lead the Lakers to the playoffs and we end up with a pick in the 20’s. And the ‘27 pick worst of NOP and MLK also ends up in the 20’s.

Trae never gets the help he needs and demands out.

Daniels actually improved throughout the year on his offense, it was always what it was but he has consistently improved it slowly in 2 years, we need to chill on this he will always have no offense stuff.  It's way harder to get guys to play D much less be elite at it.

[JTB]

I’m not opposed to keeping Hunter either. Just saying Bench Hunter was great!

Since there’s so many eyes in having all these wing players, why not just keep him.

I would rather attach a first with Capela and ship him off alone now that I think about it 

[timebomb]

9 hours ago, ShooterSays said:

Allen should be target #1, agreed. But we’re also going to need a scorer to take some of that burden off of Trae.

Just throwing this out there what if we did both trades and get Allen and Ayton( he’s always wanted to play PF) for CC and Hunter? You move JJ to SF and start ZR at the 2. Would that move the needle for anyone?

[JayBirdHawk]

51 minutes ago, timebomb said:

Just throwing this out there what if we did both trades and get Allen and Ayton( he’s always wanted to play PF) for CC and Hunter? You move JJ to SF and start ZR at the 2. Would that move the needle for anyone?

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No and No.

[JayBirdHawk]

WOW! I think that's a record.

 

[JTB]

55 minutes ago, timebomb said:

Just throwing this out there what if we did both trades and get Allen and Ayton( he’s always wanted to play PF) for CC and Hunter? You move JJ to SF and start ZR at the 2. Would that move the needle for anyone?

I actually like the idea of Dyson Daniel at the 2 next to Trae and Risacher at the 3.

i don’t think we need to change that part …Dyson can really defend his ass off and he’s getting ready to show it. I’d trade for Thybulle as another option if we don’t keep Hunter.

 

for center we just gotta choose…Ayton or Allen. Also I have watched about 95% of all of Aytons interviews and read numerous articles I don’t believe he has ever stated he wants to play the 4.

Ayton has stated he wants a big part in an offense, yes. 

[BangHolman]

1 hour ago, Bonzaii58 said:

Agreed. Delon Wright and Tyus Jones are people that come to mind for me. 

Daniels actually has a lot of Delon similarities already 

[JeffS17]

5 hours ago, AHF said:

I’m going to judge each move as it happens but the entire offseason only when it was done.  Here is the analogy.

 I said the JC for garbage trade was crap last year when it happened. Clearly we could have gotten more from him by managing that in a better way (most notably by trading him earlier) and we sold at the bottom of his value for no basketball reason (just a $$ reason).  But I recognized that we also got the TPE and that could end up being used to add a great player so that not only would we not be paper thin at PF necessarily we could end up picking up a great player.  
 

So final judgement comes now as the TPE expires unused for any purpose that we could not have accomplished without it:  It was a s**t trade that left us undermanned last year and hurt us on the basketball court and served no purpose other than dodging the tax.  On the buy low, sell high spectrum TS bought high and LF sold low.  Front office fail.

(Fool me once on the TPE.  To do something we can’t do without it means using it in a way to add salary we could not otherwise have added.  We essentially “used it” to renew it at a smaller value.  That is better than nothing but only becomes something meaningful when actually used to add a contract you could not have added without it.  Do we Charlie Brown fans think that the FO is going to do that this time now that this new TPE has been created?  Line that football up and let’s see.)

Couple of points on this one: we did just use the JC TPE in the Murray trade and created a new TPE to roll another year.  Also, we didnt sell JC at the bottom of his value, his value is actually still going down.

[JayBirdHawk]

Forget high priced centers like Ayton and Allen....I would look for MLE type Centers to backup OO.

 

 

More here:

https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-nba-free-agent-rankings-top-centers-available-summer/

 

[Megaloxali]

11 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

Couple of points on this one: we did just use the JC TPE in the Murray trade and created a new TPE to roll another year.  Also, we didnt sell JC at the bottom of his value, his value is actually still going down.

Can you explain how we used the JC TPE on the Murray trade? 

[kg01]

7 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Forget high priced centers like Ayton and Allen....I would look for MLE type Centers to backup OO.

 

 

More here:

https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-nba-free-agent-rankings-top-centers-available-summer/

 

BroLo

BroLo

BroLo.... 

24 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

WOW! I think that's a record.

 

Yeah and at this point what else is there to be learned from lurking here.

They waiting for the Trae trade?

[theheroatl]

18 minutes ago, BangHolman said:

Daniels actually has a lot of Delon similarities already 

Was thinking the same.

 

I'm super excited that we got Daniels

[JTB]

7 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Forget high priced centers like Ayton and Allen....I would look for MLE type Centers to backup OO.

 

 

More here:

https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-nba-free-agent-rankings-top-centers-available-summer/

 

I wouldn’t consider Allen high priced.

he will make more than that on his next contract.

I believe Ayton will be worth his contract next to Trae but that’s just me.

Lets say we get Jonas Val to be our other starting center along with OO, cause we all know OO can’t man the center position alone (he’s too small).

 

How many games is this team winning ?

Trae, Dyson, Risacher, Jalen , OO or Jonas depending on center matchup

[AHF]

2 hours ago, JTB said:

I don’t mind a trade for Jarrett Allen at all but again where is your secondary bucket getter in this lineup???

Trae, Daniels, Risacher, Jalen, Allen

do you guys really believe Risacher and Jalen can be hi to scorers when Trae is trapped ?? Because that lineup absolutely puts that pressure on them.

i just don’t think they are ready for that and it’s asking for a lot out of them.

I don't believe Daniels is a starter.  I think we are most likely to start Risacher and Hunter where both of them are viable scoring / shooting threats.  I think it is likely that Bogi is the fist guy off the bench for offense and Daniels for defense.