NBASupes Posted Sunday at 01:29 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 01:29 AM 1 minute ago, REHawksFan said: So the anticipated deal would be CC and Hunter for a Center upgrade? I wouldn't consider that a Hunter salary dump. Yes but if Hunter isn't really getting a return, that's a salary dump 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REHawksFan Posted Sunday at 01:31 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 01:31 AM 1 minute ago, NBASupes said: Yes but if Hunter isn't really getting a return, that's a salary dump Wouldn't we be getting a better center than CC? That's the Hunter return imo. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted Sunday at 01:44 AM Premium Member Report Share Posted Sunday at 01:44 AM 10 minutes ago, REHawksFan said: Wouldn't we be getting a better center than CC? That's the Hunter return imo. CC and Hunt are a combined $43.9 million. Which better Center is worth that total? None. So what else is coming our way?? Nothing. I think that's what Supes might be saying. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted Sunday at 01:46 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 01:46 AM 12 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: This sounds like Ayton Dumping Hunter is not a good look to keep Trae around long term. y’all know by now I’m a huge Ayton fan but that is strictly with a Trae type playmaker in which there’s only 3 in the NBA. So if we did get Ayton and dumped Hunter to do it in a trade with Capela , we probably should avoid an Ayton deal as much as I hate to say it. Ayton cannot reach his maximize play without a guard like Trae. Dumping Hunter for scraps puts 1 foot out the door for Trae. The plan should be to pair Ayton and Trae long term. SMH…. we got good young wing 🪽 players in Risacher and Dyson but you need a vet wing to really make this thing work. Can we not stay under the tax if we bring in Thybulle and Ayton while trading away Hunter & Capela ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted Sunday at 01:46 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 01:46 AM 15 minutes ago, JeffS17 said: We bought low on Daniels and got picks back in two drafts we wouldn't have picks. That helps smooth the rookies coming in which means we'll continuously have 3-5 guys on rookie scale deals. It was a smart move and the type of move we're going to need to keep making if we want to build this team into something more than a perennial 5-10th seed. Also, if an opportunistic trade for a major upgrade comes along now, we have the picks to make it happen. The Hawks got good value for DJM. They actually have a plan. Daniels is a great POA defender which this team was desperate for. Nance is a good role player who will give us back up minutes at center behind Okongwu and forward behind Johnson. The two picks have the chance to be really good picks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted Sunday at 01:47 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 01:47 AM 2 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: CC and Hunt are a combined $43.9 million. Which better Center is worth that total? None. So what else is coming our way?? Nothing. I think that's what Supes might be saying. You answered my question about including Thybulle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted Sunday at 01:48 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 01:48 AM Hawks should not trade for Ayton anyway. He’s lazy. He’s not good defender. He’s not versatile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted Sunday at 01:48 AM Author Moderators Report Share Posted Sunday at 01:48 AM 5 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: CC and Hunt are a combined $43.9 million. Which better Center is worth that total? None. So what else is coming our way?? Nothing. I think that's what Supes might be saying. And CC crushed Ayton last year by a lot of metrics so if the idea is we are trading CC for Ayton as fair value then getting a second for Hunter is a dump. If we get rid of Hunter, we have to add a quality wing. It is a big question whether either Risacher or Dyson can be even average starters before Trae is an UFA. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted Sunday at 01:48 AM Premium Member Report Share Posted Sunday at 01:48 AM 33 minutes ago, NBASupes said: Atlanta was close on the Grimes deal but Dallas offered picks to land Grimes. So the deal would have been Hunter for Grimes?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted Sunday at 01:51 AM Premium Member Report Share Posted Sunday at 01:51 AM 2 minutes ago, JTB said: You answered my question about including Thybulle. So we are taking in $45 million in return. Doesn't sound as if that's what Supes is saying based on 'dumping' Hunter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JTB Posted Sunday at 01:55 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 01:55 AM Just now, JayBirdHawk said: So we are taking in $45 million in return. Doesn't sound as if that's what Supes is saying based on 'dumping' Hunter. Yeah Thybulle contract was bigger than I thought. What do the Cavs have? Maybe a combo of Okorro and Allen keep us under the cap where we don’t have to salary dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REHawksFan Posted Sunday at 01:55 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 01:55 AM (edited) 12 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: CC and Hunt are a combined $43.9 million. Which better Center is worth that total? None. So what else is coming our way?? Nothing. I think that's what Supes might be saying. I hear what you are saying, but I'd argue that CC and Hunter aren't actually worth $43M. So it isn't trading value for value. If the point is to upgrade the Center position, then by default trading Clint plus something for a Center better than Clint means that extra something makes up the difference. In this case it's Hunter. Personally, I don't want to trade Hunter. I'd rather just keep him. I'm just saying if they combine CC and Hunter for a better center, that's not necessarily a salary dump. Edited Sunday at 01:56 AM by REHawksFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member aali34 Posted Sunday at 01:57 AM Premium Member Report Share Posted Sunday at 01:57 AM The only guy I can justify dumping CC and Hunter for and getting just a big back would be KAT. If you're trading for Ayton's contract, by default you should be receiving assets not dumping them. I strongly believe Hunter is trending upwards as a player and if he stays healthy will have his best season, weird to just dump him when you can hold onto him and get way more. His defensive numbers should pop out too with all this additional length we've added. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted Sunday at 01:57 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 01:57 AM (edited) I wonder if old man Joe Ingles is in play for the vet minimum? Trade CC & Hunter for Ayton should also give us some additional cap space to use too right ? Edited Sunday at 01:58 AM by JTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted Sunday at 02:01 AM Premium Member Report Share Posted Sunday at 02:01 AM 6 minutes ago, JTB said: What do the Cavs have? Maybe a combo of Okorro and Allen keep us under the cap where we don’t have to salary dumb Okoro is a RFA, what's his price tag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted Sunday at 02:03 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 02:03 AM What’s Gordon Hayward up to these days ?? maybe you give him the vet minimum assuming he’d take it. i just hope we aren’t dumb enough to believe all these young wings are ready to contribute that quickly without any vet assistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REHawksFan Posted Sunday at 02:07 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 02:07 AM 5 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Okoro is a RFA, what's his price tag? Made just under $9M last year. Would fit into the non-taxpayer MLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JeffS17 Posted Sunday at 02:08 AM Premium Member Report Share Posted Sunday at 02:08 AM Im surprised Capela has much value on the market to be honest. Hes sadly regressed a ton since our ECF run. Hopefully a team really needs a paint protecting center. Hunter is such a wild card to me in terms of value— he is a desired archetype, but he also has not had much impact on winning. Then he seemed to look better for parts of last year… but his contract aint great… no idea what to expect for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted Sunday at 02:17 AM Author Moderators Report Share Posted Sunday at 02:17 AM Capela regressed vs Ayton: 2023-24: 20.7 PER > 18.9 PER 22.4 TRB% >> 19.1 TRB% 5.1% BLK% >>> 2.1 BLK% 6.3 WS & .161 WS/48 >>> 3.9 WS & .109 WS/48 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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