Spud2nique Posted Sunday at 07:18 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:18 PM One thing I’m concerned about is if we flip Cap, hes our biggest dude that plays center. Would the deal bring back at least a big a$$ body like a Val or Zubizubi?prolly not either but that type of big that sets wide screens, like Zazaish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_quest Posted Sunday at 07:18 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:18 PM 5 minutes ago, ShooterSays said: Who are these "big" players that were available for DJM? Because most trades like this aren't player for player, they're player for picks. Which we now also have again. Agree. It looks like they decided the picks were more valuable than any player available. Difficult to trade a ball dominant guy like Murray. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spud2nique Posted Sunday at 07:19 PM Popular Post Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:19 PM Did we keep Ivan Johnson’s number? We need a bruiser, a no nonsense dude, like a crazy mofo like James Johnson not him again but that type of crazy. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REHawksFan Posted Sunday at 07:28 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:28 PM 1 hour ago, kg01 said: First, feels like I'm talking to a ghost since I thought you said you were done with this team. Anyways, I do find it odd that folks are so vehemently behind this front office despite the volume of moves that are designed, obviously and primarily, to help Toni save money. I dont care how smart they supposedly are. If they have to operate with the mandate to avoid increasing costs, they're impact is muted by the goals of (cl)ownership. I'm sure a case can be made that the moves are basketball related. But they still have the common theme of cost avoidance that can't be ignored. I'm not behind the cheapness of the ownership, but I also don't see the sense in complaining about it, especially when the team got better with the latest moves. Some folks are acting like the DJM trade was just a salary dump like the JC trade. That's just not true. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_quest Posted Sunday at 07:34 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:34 PM 4 minutes ago, sturt said: Irony. You accuse, perhaps with validity, that some people aren't seeing the bigger picture. I'm accusing you of not seeing the still bigger bigger picture. The owner has confirmed without question... in behaviors even more so than words... that his priority is what his priority is. And the practical meaning of that is, if/when this team ever does finally get back into the vicinity of Base Camp IV, there will remain the question of whether he perceives they are in that vicinity sufficient for him to provide the special resources he, for now can just theoretically claim he will provide... but b/c his priority is what his priority is, there's an extremely good reason to be skeptical that his assessment will not be tainted by his myopic focus on whether he's had sufficient income in the lead-up to that to be comfortable with spending money. I've been used. I'm tired of being used. Tony wants the imagery that he cares enough that others will care, but what he cares about primarily is self-interest, not what the rest of us care about. That mindset represents something like a glass ceiling. This team will find it so much more difficult to summit Everest than most, maybe even all, other franchises in this league, due to its owner. That's depressing, but it's reality. Your entire premise hinges on believing in Murray, Huerter, and JC. All guys rumored to be on the trading block. Tony isn’t a monster for not wasting luxury tax years on this group. You guys don’t understand that mediocre teams with high payrolls don’t deserve funding for even higher payrolls. Strong performance = More investment Weak performance = Less investment Since the starting core with huge salaries had a poor net rating, players got cut. Owner could pay them anyways but he’s not running a charity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted Sunday at 07:36 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:36 PM 31 minutes ago, AHF said: Our best asset to land a big player was our draft pick Fixed! 17 minutes ago, Spud2nique said: Did we keep Ivan Johnson’s number? We need a bruiser, a no nonsense dude, like a crazy mofo like James Johnson not him again but that type of crazy. Nance has a bit of that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted Sunday at 07:37 PM Premium Member Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:37 PM 3 minutes ago, Final_quest said: Your entire premise hinges on believing in Murray, Huerter, and JC. All guys rumored to be on the trading block. You're not reading what I'm writing if that's your conclusion. That's just not even barely cogent. You don't get it, FQ. It makes me a little angry, to be honest. At this point, you almost have to be trying not to get it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Posted Sunday at 07:39 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:39 PM Now this is a nice backup to OO option. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Afro Posted Sunday at 07:40 PM Popular Post Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:40 PM Also, screw yall for posting Sidery so much lol. Now he's stuck in my Algo 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted Sunday at 07:46 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:46 PM (edited) 34 minutes ago, Final_quest said: My concern is Bogi is our only proven shooter. If Bogi is out can Risacher fill that role in year one? Who will our roll man be? Okongwu, who is 84th percentile as a PNR finisher. Edited Sunday at 07:50 PM by KB21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted Sunday at 07:49 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:49 PM 33 minutes ago, Final_quest said: My concern is Bogi is our only proven shooter. If Bogi is out can Risacher fill that role in year one? Who will our roll man be? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theheroatl Posted Sunday at 07:54 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:54 PM (edited) Why are we talking about offense and pick and roll when we let opposing bench players Rick roll us If I could flush all the Atlanta hawks tweeter “media” I would.. can we just get a fresh crop of smart people instead of these dumba** brad Rowland glen willis grant shirley why can’t we have smart people why do we care about the 5 pnr when we can get JJ to roll and even Risacher Edited Sunday at 07:56 PM by theheroatl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted Sunday at 08:02 PM Premium Member Report Share Posted Sunday at 08:02 PM 12 minutes ago, KB21 said: The worry is about his rebounding and defense against bigger centers not offense 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted Sunday at 08:13 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 08:13 PM 9 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: The worry is about his rebounding and defense against bigger centers not offense It’s an overblown concern. Don’t know how many times OO was “posted up” last season? 29. That’s all season. OO’s defense and rebounding were clearly affected by the poor perimeter defense. He was having to get out of position to cover for the lack of perimeter ball containment, and the Hawks didn’t have any wings that could rebound. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjob23 Posted Sunday at 08:16 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 08:16 PM 17 minutes ago, KB21 said: Claxton hasn’t ever played with a PnR savant like Trae. Any center playing with Trae will have inflated PnR efficiency numbers. Trae’s PnR game excels with a center that has an elite vertical leap. Damian Jones was in the 94.5 percentile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoostal Posted Sunday at 08:30 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 08:30 PM 51 minutes ago, Afro said: Now this is a nice backup to OO option. Don't think they would trade within the division 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted Sunday at 08:40 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 08:40 PM 43 minutes ago, theheroatl said: Why are we talking about offense and pick and roll when we let opposing bench players Rick roll us If I could flush all the Atlanta hawks tweeter “media” I would.. can we just get a fresh crop of smart people instead of these dumba** brad Rowland glen willis grant shirley why can’t we have smart people why do we care about the 5 pnr when we can get JJ to roll and even Risacher We need media with complete total fealty to the Hawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted Sunday at 08:43 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 08:43 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theheroatl Posted Sunday at 08:44 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 08:44 PM (edited) A little over an hour left guys and gals.. What's your predictions: BI Traded? - Resigned to NO less than max deal Paul George - Clippers Laker MLE Signing - Klay MLE Donovan Mitchell - Max Deal on Cavs Hartenstein - Jazz DeRozan - Magic KCP - Pistons Klay - Lakers MLE Tobias - Pistons Valanciunas - Spurs BroLo - Bucks Edited Sunday at 08:45 PM by theheroatl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABH Posted Sunday at 09:00 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 09:00 PM 15 minutes ago, theheroatl said: A little over an hour left guys and gals.. What's your predictions: BI Traded? - Resigned to NO less than max deal Paul George - Clippers Laker MLE Signing - Klay MLE Donovan Mitchell - Max Deal on Cavs Hartenstein - Jazz DeRozan - Magic KCP - Pistons Klay - Lakers MLE Tobias - Pistons Valanciunas - Spurs BroLo - Bucks Where is the Hawks? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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