The Hawks need to add DeRozan to this team

[Peoriabird]

8 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

They should want to WIN, need to WIN.

That should be the primary focus and objective every offseason.

Tried that and failed with Murray...Is there any learning taking place?

[TheFuzz]

If he's not too expensive, sure, but he's not a good fit offensively or defensively tbh. Purely on talent I'd be ok but don't see a way to get him that makes sense. Trading for Markannen makes a lot more sense talent/fit/timeline wise 

[hawkman]

2 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Thing is, I'm not even a DDR fan ......but the team as currently constructed is still 'messy'

Granted, I don't think (and I hope not) that this is the final version.

But the thought of 'going into the season to see what we have in _________, is a non starter.

The Falcons tried that with Ridder at QB with no viable back up QB last season and it got the coach fired. The Hawks need more firepower period.

[Dejay]

Just now, JayBirdHawk said:

Thing is, I'm not even a DDR fan ......but the team as currently constructed is still 'messy'

Granted, I don't think (and I hope not) that this is the final version.

But the thought of 'going into the season to see what we have in _________, is a non starter.

My thoughts exactly. While we're waiting on the next shoe to drop in terms of them bringing in more talent to help Trae out, it would be so Hawks DNA of them to simply say...

'We're done for right now, we're going to go into the season with what we have and see how we can develop some of our younger players. Trading (insert Hunter or Capela here) was a temporary blow but you see, there is a luxury tax in the league and...'

[JayBirdHawk]

3 minutes ago, deester11 said:

End point. It's what a lot of us are saying. We've seen different versions of the same group with minimal success and some good moments. It's beyond time to not be satisfied with mediocrity.  

Hawks fans need reprogramming (took me awhile )  from accepting the bullshit that we should be happy with. 

[JeffS17]

41 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

so we are using this season as a development season and hope to win some games along the way? Or should we go into the season focus on winning and being in the top 6? 

What is your plan?

Development as a priority over optimizing for next seasons record, but that does not mean I want to go into the season with an incomplete roster.  I want to see more chemistry develop this season on both ends, now that Murray is gone.  And I want to see strong player development

[JeffS17]

Why do you guys let Pbird rile you up so much? He's got yall making a thread "hot!" faster than a trade

[JayBirdHawk]

1 minute ago, Dejay said:

My thoughts exactly. While we're waiting on the next shoe to drop in terms of them bringing in more talent to help Trae out, it would be so Hawks DNA of them to simply say...

'We're done for right now, we're going to go into the season with what we have and see how we can develop some of our younger players. Trading (insert Hunter or Capela here) was a temporary blow but you see, there is a luxury tax in the league and...'

They said that last offseason after the failed Siakam trade attempt.  'We are happy going into the season as is'. How'd that work out for them.

They sell us on things like 'We have the biggest TPE in NBA history'. I said then it won't amount to a hill of beans if we do nothing with it.

[JayBirdHawk]

2 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

Why do you guys let Pbird rile you up so much? He's got yall making a thread "hot!" faster than a trade

Blame @TheNorthCydeRises for this 

[Gray Mule]

At season's end the Hawks had Capela, OO, and Bruno as our centers.  Some Squawk posters believed this had to change before next season.  So far, nothing has changed.  Atlanta still has the same three.

We've added to and changed a lot so far.  Are we finished now?  

[kg01]

4 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

Why do you guys let Pbird rile you up so much? He's got yall making a thread "hot!" faster than a trade

Why are you attacking him, jeffe?

 

[Peoriabird]

2 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

They said that last offseason after the failed Siakam trade attempt.  'We are happy going into the season as is'. How'd that work out for them.

They sell us on things like 'We have the biggest TPE in NBA history'. I said then it won't amount to a hill of beans if we do nothing with it.

The dirty little secret of why this team fails is on the team in plain sight

[kg01]

Just now, Peoriabird said:

The dirty little secret of why this team fails is on the team in plain sight

Wearing #12....

[Peoriabird]

Just now, kg01 said:

Wearing #12....

They started losing when he got hurt...The same can't be said about that dirty little secret

[JayBirdHawk]

1 minute ago, Peoriabird said:

The dirty little secret of why this team fails is on the team in plain sight

Convince me that ownership and FO have done there best over the last 3 years to build up the team

I'll hang up and listen. 

[Peoriabird]

1 minute ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Convince me that ownership and FO have done there best over the last 3 years to build up the team

I'll hang up and listen. 

That's the point...Ownership has to have the perfect coach, players and spend a bunch of money while the dirty little secret is on the team just to avoid the play in

[JeffS17]

7 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Why are you attacking him, jeffe?

 

I resent that accusation.  I am a professional.

Spoiler

I definitely do not love drama and chaos

 

[kg01]

Non-fan trolls gonna non-fan troll ....

[JayBirdHawk]

Just now, Peoriabird said:

That's the point...Ownership has to have the perfect coach, players and spend a bunch of money while the dirty little secret is on the team just to avoid the play in

As expected, no substance 

Go down your own rabbit hole! 

 

 

Meanwhile, back on topic for rest of the squawk.

DeRozan: Yes or No?

[Peoriabird]

Just now, JayBirdHawk said:

As expected, no substance 

Go down your own rabbit hole! 

 

 

Meanwhile, back on topic for rest of the squawk.

DeRozan: Yes or No?

Murray was playing with a bunch of scrubs and had a winning record without the Dirty little secret