Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted Sunday at 02:12 PM Premium Member Report Share Posted Sunday at 02:12 PM Untouchables: That group consisted of two players: Jalen Johnson and rookie No. 1 pick Zaccharie Risacher, whom the Hawks have big plans for. Most Desirable Trade Assets: Trae Young and Onyeka Okongwu – as well as the 2025 first-round pick they received from the Los Angeles Lakers via the New Orleans Pelicans in the Dejounte Murray trade. 1) 2025 first-round pick (via LAL) 2) 2027 first-round pick (top-4 protected via NOP) 3) 2028 first-round pick 4) 2025 first-round pick (top-12 protected via SAC, 2 second-round picks in 2026 & 2027) 5) Trae Young 6) Onyeka Okongwu 7) Larry Nance Jr. 8). Bogdan Bogdanovic 9) Dyson Daniels 10) 2029 first-round pick 11) 2030 first-round pick 12) 2031 first-round pick 13) De’Andre Hunter De’Andre Hunter has been the Hawks’ best perimeter defender for years, which speaks volumes abut the team’s level of play on that end. Hunter is a good not great defender in Year 2 of a four-year, $90 million contact. “I'll just say we know that the Hawks have been looking to unload DeAndre Hunter, right, who is owed about $22 [million] this year, $23 [million] next year, $25 [million] the year after that,” MacMahon said on “The Hoop Collective” podcast on September 10. “That's not a great contract.” Hunter’s offense has been a valued – and needed – asset. But he also has durability issues that have limited his effectiveness. Hunter also joked about not working on anything in particular over the 2023 offseason and proceeded to post a very similar stat line as the season prior. 14) Clint Capela Clint Capela is on an expiring contract and has been an anchor of the Hawks’ defense since arriving in 2020. In what is a theme for many players on this roster, injuries have sapped his effectiveness in recent years. It has also hurt his trade value. “The Hawks have been trying to trade Clint Capela for more than a year,” Stein wrote in a line that sums up why the 2020-21 rebounding champion is this low. data:image/svg+xml,%3C%3Fxml%20version%3D%221.0%22%20encoding%3D%22UTF-8%22%3F%3E%0A%3Csvg%20id%3D%22Assets%22%20xmlns%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%22%20viewBox%3D%220%200%201086%20200%22%3E%0A%20%20%3Cdefs%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%3Cstyle%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20.cls-1%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20fill%3A%20%23fdb927%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20stroke-width%3A%200px%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20%3C%2Fstyle%3E%0A%20%20%3C%2Fdefs%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m32.5%2C47.4l-3.76-3.76h-6.57l-3.76%2C3.76v40.2l3.76%2C3.76h17.66l11.27%2C11.27v57.49l-11.27%2C11.27H11.27l-11.27-11.27v-29.87h18.04v22.36l3.76%2C3.76h7.51l3.76-3.76v-42.08l-3.76-3.76H11.65L.38%2C95.49v-55.61l11.27-11.27h27.62l11.27%2C11.27v30.06h-18.04v-22.54Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m115.16%2C160.12l-11.27%2C11.27h-31.37l-11.27-11.27V39.88l11.27-11.27h31.37l11.27%2C11.27v120.23Zm-32.12-116.1l-3.76%2C3.76v104.45l3.76%2C3.76h10.33l3.76-3.76V47.77l-3.76-3.76h-10.33Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m142.96%2C134.57l-3.57%2C36.82h-18.04l17.09-142.78h25.93l17.47%2C142.78h-18.79l-3.57-36.82h-16.53Zm8.27-87.36l-6.95%2C71.95h13.9l-6.95-71.95Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m189.74%2C28.61h41.71l11.27%2C11.27v59.37l-9.96%2C9.96%2C11.27%2C62.18h-17.47l-11.08-60.87h-7.7v60.87h-18.04V28.61Zm34.94%2C63.5v-44.71l-3.76-3.76h-13.15v52.23h13.15l3.76-3.76Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m255.49%2C28.61h18.04v142.78h-18.04V28.61Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m285.92%2C28.61h19.54l20.66%2C99.01V28.61h16.35v142.78h-19.54l-20.67-97.5v97.5h-16.34V28.61Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m354.3%2C39.88l11.27-11.27h29.49l11.27%2C11.27v30.25h-18.04v-22.36l-3.76-3.76h-8.45l-3.76%2C3.76v104.45l3.76%2C3.76h8.45l3.76-3.76v-39.08h-9.02v-16.16h27.05v63.12l-11.27%2C11.27h-29.49l-11.27-11.27V39.88Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m501.39%2C39.88v120.23l-11.27%2C11.27h-42.27V28.61h42.27l11.27%2C11.27Zm-18.04%2C112.34V47.77l-3.76-3.76h-13.71v111.97h13.71l3.76-3.76Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m566.58%2C160.12l-11.27%2C11.27h-31.37l-11.27-11.27V39.88l11.27-11.27h31.37l11.27%2C11.27v120.23Zm-32.12-116.1l-3.76%2C3.76v104.45l3.76%2C3.76h10.33l3.76-3.76V47.77l-3.76-3.76h-10.33Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m635.71%2C171.39l-9.77-120.23-9.77%2C120.23h-25.18l-18.22-142.78h18.79l10.71%2C123.43%2C12.59-123.43h22.54l12.59%2C123.43%2C10.71-123.43h17.66l-18.22%2C142.78h-24.42Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m686.24%2C28.61h19.54l20.66%2C99.01V28.61h16.35v142.78h-19.54l-20.67-97.5v97.5h-16.34V28.61Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m816.05%2C47.4l-3.76-3.76h-6.57l-3.76%2C3.76v40.2l3.76%2C3.76h17.66l11.27%2C11.27v57.49l-11.27%2C11.27h-28.56l-11.27-11.27v-29.87h18.04v22.36l3.76%2C3.76h7.51l3.76-3.76v-42.08l-3.76-3.76h-17.66l-11.27-11.27v-55.61l11.27-11.27h27.62l11.27%2C11.27v30.06h-18.04v-22.54Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m898.71%2C160.12l-11.27%2C11.27h-31.37l-11.27-11.27V39.88l11.27-11.27h31.37l11.27%2C11.27v120.23Zm-32.12-116.1l-3.76%2C3.76v104.45l3.76%2C3.76h10.33l3.76-3.76V47.77l-3.76-3.76h-10.33Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m951.87%2C171.39h-30.25l-11.27-11.27V28.61h18.04v123.62l3.76%2C3.76h9.21l3.76-3.76V28.61h18.04v131.51l-11.27%2C11.27Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m1005.97%2C43.64v127.75h-18.04V43.64h-17.09v-15.03h52.23v15.03h-17.1Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m1048.99%2C91.92h18.97V28.61h18.04v142.78h-18.04v-63.69h-18.97v63.69h-18.04V28.61h18.04v63.31Z%22%2F%3E%0A%3C%2Fsvg%3E Hawks picks and pricey players in Tier 4 trade assets Interchangeable Hawks in Tier 5 trade assets This group can be ranked in any order depending on the prospective suitor. None of them figure to bring back more than second-round returns in a trade, and even that might be a little too ambitious. Kobe Bufkin was the No. 16 overall pick in 2023 but has been derailed by injuries. He likely has more value to the Hawks than anyone else, a telling sign for the others in this tier. David Roddy is an undersized (height-wise) power forward with a limited game. Vit Krejci proved to be a valuable piece of the bench for the Hawks and may be ranked too low on this list. He is a 6-foot-8 point forward who also shot 41.2% from beyond the arc for the Hawks in 2023-24. Garrison Mathews is like Krejci without the height or playmaking. But he is still a willing defender, specifically when it comes to drawing charges. Cody Zeller is the Hawks’ tallest player at 6-foot-11. The Hawks swung a trade to acquire Mouhamed Gueye’s draft rights from the Boston Celtics in 2023. Like, Bufkin, though he was derailed by injuries as a rookie. Nikola Djurisic is not technically on the Hawks’ roster. He was acquired in a three-team draft night trade but remains unsigned and could return overseas for next season. What are your thoughts? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interchangeable Hawks in Tier 5 trade assets This group can be ranked in any order depending on the prospective suitor. None of them figure to bring back more than second-round returns in a trade, and even that might be a little too ambitious. Kobe Bufkin was the No. 16 overall pick in 2023 but has been derailed by injuries. He likely has more value to the Hawks than anyone else, a telling sign for the others in this tier. David Roddy is an undersized (height-wise) power forward with a limited game. Vit Krejci proved to be a valuable piece of the bench for the Hawks and may be ranked too low on this list. He is a 6-foot-8 point forward who also shot 41.2% from beyond the arc for the Hawks in 2023-24. Garrison Mathews is like Krejci without the height or playmaking. But he is still a willing defender, specifically when it comes to drawing charges. Cody Zeller is the Hawks’ tallest player at 6-foot-11. The Hawks swung a trade to acquire Mouhamed Gueye’s draft rights from the Boston Celtics in 2023. Like, Bufkin, though he was derailed by injuries as a rookie. Nikola Djurisic is not technically on the Hawks’ roster. He was acquired in a three-team draft night trade but remains unsigned and could return overseas for next season.
Premium Member HawkingAwesome Posted Sunday at 06:15 PM Premium Member Report Share Posted Sunday at 06:15 PM Hunter also joked about not working on anything in particular over the 2023 offseason and proceeded to post a very similar stat line as the season prior. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted Monday at 12:34 AM Moderators Report Share Posted Monday at 12:34 AM 11 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said: Untouchables: That group consisted of two players: Jalen Johnson and rookie No. 1 pick Zaccharie Risacher, whom the Hawks have big plans for. Most Desirable Trade Assets: Trae Young and Onyeka Okongwu – as well as the 2025 first-round pick they received from the Los Angeles Lakers via the New Orleans Pelicans in the Dejounte Murray trade. 1) 2025 first-round pick (via LAL) 2) 2027 first-round pick (top-4 protected via NOP) 3) 2028 first-round pick 4) 2025 first-round pick (top-12 protected via SAC, 2 second-round picks in 2026 & 2027) 5) Trae Young 6) Onyeka Okongwu 7) Larry Nance Jr. 8). Bogdan Bogdanovic 9) Dyson Daniels 10) 2029 first-round pick 11) 2030 first-round pick 12) 2031 first-round pick 13) De’Andre Hunter De’Andre Hunter has been the Hawks’ best perimeter defender for years, which speaks volumes abut the team’s level of play on that end. Hunter is a good not great defender in Year 2 of a four-year, $90 million contact. “I'll just say we know that the Hawks have been looking to unload DeAndre Hunter, right, who is owed about $22 [million] this year, $23 [million] next year, $25 [million] the year after that,” MacMahon said on “The Hoop Collective” podcast on September 10. “That's not a great contract.” Hunter’s offense has been a valued – and needed – asset. But he also has durability issues that have limited his effectiveness. Hunter also joked about not working on anything in particular over the 2023 offseason and proceeded to post a very similar stat line as the season prior. 14) Clint Capela Clint Capela is on an expiring contract and has been an anchor of the Hawks’ defense since arriving in 2020. In what is a theme for many players on this roster, injuries have sapped his effectiveness in recent years. It has also hurt his trade value. “The Hawks have been trying to trade Clint Capela for more than a year,” Stein wrote in a line that sums up why the 2020-21 rebounding champion is this low. data:image/svg+xml,%3C%3Fxml%20version%3D%221.0%22%20encoding%3D%22UTF-8%22%3F%3E%0A%3Csvg%20id%3D%22Assets%22%20xmlns%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%22%20viewBox%3D%220%200%201086%20200%22%3E%0A%20%20%3Cdefs%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%3Cstyle%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20.cls-1%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20fill%3A%20%23fdb927%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20stroke-width%3A%200px%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20%3C%2Fstyle%3E%0A%20%20%3C%2Fdefs%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m32.5%2C47.4l-3.76-3.76h-6.57l-3.76%2C3.76v40.2l3.76%2C3.76h17.66l11.27%2C11.27v57.49l-11.27%2C11.27H11.27l-11.27-11.27v-29.87h18.04v22.36l3.76%2C3.76h7.51l3.76-3.76v-42.08l-3.76-3.76H11.65L.38%2C95.49v-55.61l11.27-11.27h27.62l11.27%2C11.27v30.06h-18.04v-22.54Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m115.16%2C160.12l-11.27%2C11.27h-31.37l-11.27-11.27V39.88l11.27-11.27h31.37l11.27%2C11.27v120.23Zm-32.12-116.1l-3.76%2C3.76v104.45l3.76%2C3.76h10.33l3.76-3.76V47.77l-3.76-3.76h-10.33Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m142.96%2C134.57l-3.57%2C36.82h-18.04l17.09-142.78h25.93l17.47%2C142.78h-18.79l-3.57-36.82h-16.53Zm8.27-87.36l-6.95%2C71.95h13.9l-6.95-71.95Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m189.74%2C28.61h41.71l11.27%2C11.27v59.37l-9.96%2C9.96%2C11.27%2C62.18h-17.47l-11.08-60.87h-7.7v60.87h-18.04V28.61Zm34.94%2C63.5v-44.71l-3.76-3.76h-13.15v52.23h13.15l3.76-3.76Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m255.49%2C28.61h18.04v142.78h-18.04V28.61Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m285.92%2C28.61h19.54l20.66%2C99.01V28.61h16.35v142.78h-19.54l-20.67-97.5v97.5h-16.34V28.61Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m354.3%2C39.88l11.27-11.27h29.49l11.27%2C11.27v30.25h-18.04v-22.36l-3.76-3.76h-8.45l-3.76%2C3.76v104.45l3.76%2C3.76h8.45l3.76-3.76v-39.08h-9.02v-16.16h27.05v63.12l-11.27%2C11.27h-29.49l-11.27-11.27V39.88Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m501.39%2C39.88v120.23l-11.27%2C11.27h-42.27V28.61h42.27l11.27%2C11.27Zm-18.04%2C112.34V47.77l-3.76-3.76h-13.71v111.97h13.71l3.76-3.76Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m566.58%2C160.12l-11.27%2C11.27h-31.37l-11.27-11.27V39.88l11.27-11.27h31.37l11.27%2C11.27v120.23Zm-32.12-116.1l-3.76%2C3.76v104.45l3.76%2C3.76h10.33l3.76-3.76V47.77l-3.76-3.76h-10.33Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m635.71%2C171.39l-9.77-120.23-9.77%2C120.23h-25.18l-18.22-142.78h18.79l10.71%2C123.43%2C12.59-123.43h22.54l12.59%2C123.43%2C10.71-123.43h17.66l-18.22%2C142.78h-24.42Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m686.24%2C28.61h19.54l20.66%2C99.01V28.61h16.35v142.78h-19.54l-20.67-97.5v97.5h-16.34V28.61Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m816.05%2C47.4l-3.76-3.76h-6.57l-3.76%2C3.76v40.2l3.76%2C3.76h17.66l11.27%2C11.27v57.49l-11.27%2C11.27h-28.56l-11.27-11.27v-29.87h18.04v22.36l3.76%2C3.76h7.51l3.76-3.76v-42.08l-3.76-3.76h-17.66l-11.27-11.27v-55.61l11.27-11.27h27.62l11.27%2C11.27v30.06h-18.04v-22.54Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m898.71%2C160.12l-11.27%2C11.27h-31.37l-11.27-11.27V39.88l11.27-11.27h31.37l11.27%2C11.27v120.23Zm-32.12-116.1l-3.76%2C3.76v104.45l3.76%2C3.76h10.33l3.76-3.76V47.77l-3.76-3.76h-10.33Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m951.87%2C171.39h-30.25l-11.27-11.27V28.61h18.04v123.62l3.76%2C3.76h9.21l3.76-3.76V28.61h18.04v131.51l-11.27%2C11.27Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m1005.97%2C43.64v127.75h-18.04V43.64h-17.09v-15.03h52.23v15.03h-17.1Z%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cpath%20class%3D%22cls-1%22%20d%3D%22m1048.99%2C91.92h18.97V28.61h18.04v142.78h-18.04v-63.69h-18.97v63.69h-18.04V28.61h18.04v63.31Z%22%2F%3E%0A%3C%2Fsvg%3E Hawks picks and pricey players in Tier 4 trade assets Interchangeable Hawks in Tier 5 trade assets This group can be ranked in any order depending on the prospective suitor. None of them figure to bring back more than second-round returns in a trade, and even that might be a little too ambitious. Kobe Bufkin was the No. 16 overall pick in 2023 but has been derailed by injuries. He likely has more value to the Hawks than anyone else, a telling sign for the others in this tier. David Roddy is an undersized (height-wise) power forward with a limited game. Vit Krejci proved to be a valuable piece of the bench for the Hawks and may be ranked too low on this list. He is a 6-foot-8 point forward who also shot 41.2% from beyond the arc for the Hawks in 2023-24. Garrison Mathews is like Krejci without the height or playmaking. But he is still a willing defender, specifically when it comes to drawing charges. Cody Zeller is the Hawks’ tallest player at 6-foot-11. The Hawks swung a trade to acquire Mouhamed Gueye’s draft rights from the Boston Celtics in 2023. Like, Bufkin, though he was derailed by injuries as a rookie. Nikola Djurisic is not technically on the Hawks’ roster. He was acquired in a three-team draft night trade but remains unsigned and could return overseas for next season. What are your thoughts? Zero credibility article when it ranks the “worst of NO/MIL top 4 protected” pick as our second most valuable asset. And ranks Nance as a more valuable asset than Daniels. What a garbage article. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interchangeable Hawks in Tier 5 trade assets This group can be ranked in any order depending on the prospective suitor. None of them figure to bring back more than second-round returns in a trade, and even that might be a little too ambitious. Kobe Bufkin was the No. 16 overall pick in 2023 but has been derailed by injuries. He likely has more value to the Hawks than anyone else, a telling sign for the others in this tier. David Roddy is an undersized (height-wise) power forward with a limited game. Vit Krejci proved to be a valuable piece of the bench for the Hawks and may be ranked too low on this list. He is a 6-foot-8 point forward who also shot 41.2% from beyond the arc for the Hawks in 2023-24. Garrison Mathews is like Krejci without the height or playmaking. But he is still a willing defender, specifically when it comes to drawing charges. Cody Zeller is the Hawks’ tallest player at 6-foot-11. The Hawks swung a trade to acquire Mouhamed Gueye’s draft rights from the Boston Celtics in 2023. Like, Bufkin, though he was derailed by injuries as a rookie. Nikola Djurisic is not technically on the Hawks’ roster. He was acquired in a three-team draft night trade but remains unsigned and could return overseas for next season.
Premium Member JeffS17 Posted Monday at 02:30 AM Premium Member Report Share Posted Monday at 02:30 AM 1 hour ago, AHF said: Zero credibility article when it ranks the “worst of NO/MIL top 4 protected” pick as our second most valuable asset. And ranks Nance as a more valuable asset than Daniels. What a garbage article. Yeah, i stopped reading after it listed that pick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted yesterday at 01:14 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 01:14 PM (edited) RUMORS AND BACK-STABBINGS: This off-season I have read a lot of rumors and suggestions about trades involving the Atlanta Hawks. Sometimes they may kinda make sense. That could possibly work out for both teams. Usually, there is a trade idea floated around that says, "The Hawks management is crazy. Here is a trade that is so one-sided that we would be robbers in the deal. They are sure to like this one!" Yep. I think that these are the same "experts" that made this list of Hawk assets. We may seem to be kinda dumb but we ain't crazy. We all know that our Hawk team is not the favorite to win it all. We also know that we're pretty good and will win our share of the games played. Hawks are a lot better than the 35.5 games won that is our projected record for this upcoming season. Edited yesterday at 01:16 PM by Gray Mule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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