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Premium Member Popular Post Sothron Posted 8 hours ago Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted 8 hours ago This was a good deal for both sides. I don't know where the overpaid is coming from. He would have gotten more money if he hit RFA next offseason. No question. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted 8 hours ago Moderators Report Share Posted 8 hours ago As a fan, I wouldn’t have minded letting this play out and signing him next offseason. We need JJ healthy and continuing to improve. I’m confident in the second part of that. If he gets hurt this year, this will be a significant overpay. So there is some upside if he is healthy (ie he might have gotten more next offseason if he plays 75+ games and improves on last year) and some downside if he misses another 25 games or so and/or doesn’t. Like I said, I like him to improve. I’m hopeful he’ll be healthy. What is locked in is the higher salary than his cap hold so the theoretical cap room available is roughly $15M lower next offseason than it would have been if we waited. Definitely not all bad. For JJ, this is life changing money so I 100% get why he would want to lock this in. Sets him for life as long as he isn’t recklessly irrespective irresponsible. I also want JJ here for a long time so this locks him up and I get to look forward to that (although to be fair I don’t think that was really at risk.) It doesn’t look like a bad deal compared to others from his draft class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_quest Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago He’s gonna be paid like the third or fourth best player on most teams. Low paid third guy or high paid fourth guy. That’s likely his floor. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted 7 hours ago Premium Member Report Share Posted 7 hours ago From a source: deal is flat 30 million over 5 seasons, no options 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JeffS17 Posted 7 hours ago Premium Member Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 26 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: So it is 8% increases, and it's only 16.5% of the cap next year, or 13.2% of the luxury floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
909 Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago Well deserved contract for those hating and comparing him to Dre and Collins , he’s already better than they ever were and I like both Dre and Collins. This is a steal for the Hawks. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 10 minutes ago, 909 said: Well deserved contract for those hating and comparing him to Dre and Collins , he’s already better than they ever were and I like both Dre and Collins. This is a steal for the Hawks. Dre, yeah but JC at his peak. Naw. He's does more for winning hoops but he's not as good as RS JC yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted 7 hours ago Moderators Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Sothron said: From a source: deal is flat 30 million over 5 seasons, no options If that is the case, we will have $17M less money available next offseason. Pretty much takes us out as significant players in FA if we were ever really thinking about that. As an aside, I’m higher on him than I was on JC and DH so I am not comparing those guys or lumping them together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Premium Member Popular Post JayBirdHawk Posted 7 hours ago Author Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Sothron said: This was a good deal for both sides. I don't know where the overpaid is coming from. He would have gotten more money if he hit RFA next offseason. No question. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted 7 hours ago Premium Member Report Share Posted 7 hours ago Dunno. That sounds like a very team friendly deal if we believe the trajectory of the salary cap is anything similar for the next 5 years what it has been for the previous 5 non-covid years. Very, very. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 20 minutes ago, 909 said: Well deserved contract for those hating and comparing him to Dre and Collins , he’s already better than they ever were and I like both Dre and Collins. This is a steal for the Hawks. Only question with JJ is availability. If we can get 75+ games out of him, that would be lovely. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted 7 hours ago Admin Report Share Posted 7 hours ago I’m good with it … in todays market it is about right 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JeffS17 Posted 7 hours ago Premium Member Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 35 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: That's a really... long way... ...of saying... ..."Hawks DNA" 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted 6 hours ago Author Premium Member Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 3 minutes ago, JeffS17 said: That's a really... long way... ...of saying... ..."Hawks DNA" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JeffS17 Posted 6 hours ago Premium Member Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 3 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Thanks, saving this one 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted 6 hours ago Premium Member Report Share Posted 6 hours ago Next question... one that's already been asked in a variety of ways, but now seems only natural to get still more serious about it... 1. DJM gets big money. 2. Significant salary gets sliced off the spreadsheet. 3. JJ gets big money. 4. Will it be a one-off, or will it be a clearly emergent pattern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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