Admin capstone21 Posted September 8, 2004 Admin Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 THere was a time when Deke would get you Theo Ratliff, Nazr Mohammand and Toni Kukoc. Now he is being traded for Eric Piatowski, Adreian Griffen and Mike Wilkes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 and that was what pete "always gets the short end of the stick" babcock was able to get for deke imagine what west or cuban coulda gotten for deke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted September 8, 2004 Moderators Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 Give Pete some credit he pulled off a great trade there. Of course Ratlif didn't play for a while but Deke was going anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 I agree - Deke was not going to be coming back to the Hawks after his contract expired and he was already starting to show signs of slowing down. It was a solid deal by Babcock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 of course, the only reason we got that good of a deal was that philly was contending and ratliff was out for the season it was their year to go for it all, but they knew they couldn't do it without ratliff, so they gave him/nazr/kukoc up for deke, who was still a great defender it made sense for both sides, but it took an injured center on a contender for pete to make a decent trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrenfro Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 I never would have thought I would see you guys give pete credit for anything good. I guess someone has to leave or die to get recognition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted September 8, 2004 Moderators Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 He wasn't as bad as folks around here claim. He put together a solid team under Lenny. Trying to dismantle that team without completely rebuilding was an impossible task he shouldn't have tried (in hinesight). Plus his draft picks were really bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin chillzatl Posted September 9, 2004 Admin Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 as a player. He only had one good season left in him. Since then, he's been a garbage player. If we'd signed him, we'd be moaning about it every day since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted September 9, 2004 Author Admin Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 I thought it was a great trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weez Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 odlly enough....and I've said this before...I commend Pete on the JR Rider/Jim Jackson trade. It was a risk that blew up in our face, set the team back quite far...but it was a good trade in terms of taking the risk on a team that couldn't truly succeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyman3 Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 didnt we have the option to take some of the KNICKS players for DEKE? anyone remember that package deal? just tryin to put things into perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 I had mixed feelings about the trade at the time - I liked Jackson but hated Rider. Jim Jackson was a good player for the Hawks, shouldn't have been a number one option, but a good secondary player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weez Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 it was simply a gamble on something that could have turned out, based on need, realizations, and chance...kinda like (without taking into account the cap/team situation) that Isiah pulled in trading for Marbury...if it worked...man, would it have worked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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