Premium Member Diesel Posted November 22, 2004 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 I was just thinking about this trade.... Boris Diaw/CC/1st(2006) to Washington. Kwame Brown to Atlanta. I think Kwame will emerge as a beast one day... It would be interesting to go into next season: Swift/Kwame/Peja Walker/J-Smooth Harrington/D. Smith Childress/Barry Ivey/Jack/Delk I think that this would be a team worth watching. I think that every player there is versatile. Many atheletes... But with Swift/Kwame, we get some size.... With Chillz/Walker, we have shooting. With time we develop Chemistry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delanceyj Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 You're Crazy you asked for it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 swift's only like 6-9 though. i'm only for getting him for the PF position...other than that, i'd love to get Kwame here for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinctybldh Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 That is absolutely brilliant. Let's trade a first round pick in a year that Oden comes and let's put the guy that we are trading for on our bench. That is just brilliant work. Keep it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Wretch Posted November 22, 2004 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 But I wouldn't take that kind of risk on Kwame. I don't care if he becomes the next KG or Malone, we could just at soon draft the next big thing in the lottery. An unprotected 1st is surely out of the question. I'd start with a top 10 protected pick and work from there. Kwame's worth a LATE lottery to mid 1st rounder. Not an unprotected 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar78 Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Pete Babcock is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iman Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Geez, these guys dont like that one do they..lol. I'd do it, of course the 2006 1st would have to be protected for me to be happy. I'd probably do it even if the pick was unrestricted, I'm pretty sure we'll at least be decent by 2006. I also assume we'll get another 1st rounder for Walker. Even unrestricted I'm not sure if Washington would do it. They be admitting they blew it with the #1 pick and taking what may be nothing for him. If we could pick up Brown and Swift to go along with Harrington, that would be the kinda frontline I'd want. Add a maturing Josh and we'd be very deep and very athletic. Drob and a 2005 drafted PF would add further to the depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Employee8 Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Quote: Geez, these guys dont like that one do they..lol. I'd do it, of course the 2006 1st would have to be protected for me to be happy. I'd probably do it even if the pick was unrestricted, I'm pretty sure we'll at least be decent by 2006. I also assume we'll get another 1st rounder for Walker. Even unrestricted I'm not sure if Washington would do it. They be admitting they blew it with the #1 pick and taking what may be nothing for him. If we could pick up Brown and Swift to go along with Harrington, that would be the kinda frontline I'd want. Add a maturing Josh and we'd be very deep and very athletic. Drob and a 2005 drafted PF would add further to the depth. Of course YOU WOULD do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage11 Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 That you are if you want to do this deal.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 I don't see the big harm and I don't even like Kwame. Boris Diaw has proved nothing.... THe pick would have to be top 15 protected for me to do it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinctybldh Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 why would anyone make this trade with Brown being on the Hawks bench? That makes absolutely no sense to me. If you plan on starting Brown fine, but to trade a valuable first round pick for a bench player? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emeans Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Washington is not letting Kwame go anywhere. Another mute, dead, unreal proposal. Kwame is staying in Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traceman Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 I would do such a deal but I'm not as against your proposal as many are. First of all, you didn't specify whether or not the pick would have any protections. Assuming it would, I'd ask for top 5 protection in '06, top 3 in '07 and unprotected thereafter. Second, I'm not so sure that Swift would start over Kwame next year but I'm not really sure that matters. What matters is that we would have two athletic, versatile big men who would both play a lot and who seeming fit in with Woodson's and Knight's styles. Third, I agree that PG would be the way to go in the draft if we were to be able to acquire Brown and Swift (and resign Walker). I'd prefer Chris Paul over Jack RIGHT NOW but that could certainly change as the year goes along. I think many are scared to trade #1's but I would be VERY surprised if we were able to land a better player than Kwame for a #1 pick in '06. HUGE difference between trading TWO #1's for a backup PF/C as Babs did for Lo Wright versus trading one future #1 for a former #1 overall pick who I think is ready to start to live up to his potential. Word on the street is that Kwame is up to almost 270 lbs of muscle due to the fact that he lived in the weightroom after he broke his foot. I guess the bottom line is that I like Kwame's chances of becoming a good player better than I like the chance of us drafting a good player in '06. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted November 23, 2004 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 So in other words, you're saying... Let's tank it for two more years... To get Oden and have him here in the PIT where NO FREE AGENT WiLL Want to play... You can't have it all DA... If you keep talents like Harrington, Childress, and Walker, then you can't expect to be bad enough to get ODEN... And if you tank, You can't expect FAs like Harrington and Walker to stay... So what will it be... GIve up and wait on Oden or do something now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted November 23, 2004 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Who said Unprotected First? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted November 23, 2004 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 A valuable first round pick? More likely than not, the first rounder/protected we pick up in 2006 won't be ready to play in 2006 anyway... All we are trading is Potential for somebody who is closer to play. Moreover, I fully expect us to get Swift. To have a 5 man rotation of Swift/Brown/Peja/Walker/and J-Smooth at the 4 & 5 spot is a good rotation where you never loose anything when one player goes to the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Wretch Posted November 23, 2004 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Specify man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djcorley Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Nah Diesel...we can't do that one...no first rounders not matter how they're protected at this point. we're still in the rebuilding mode and as well all know you have to draft well in order to speed up the process...and BK has shown the he can draft talent..unitl we get to the top(only a matter of time)...then and only then can we afford to trade a # one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted November 23, 2004 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 You mean that you don't consider getting a 7'0 270 lb rock hard C as rebuilding? I consider Kwame to be better than anything that we would possibly be able to get in 2006 save the top 3 picks. Moreover, I think that getting this guy and a good PG in 2005's draft meaning that we are bringing an end to rebuild.. especially if we sign Walker/Swift... Brown/Swift/Peja Walker/J-Smoove Harrington/D.Smith Childress/Delk Jack/Ivey With one other player. I think that we have a very strong team as is right there... What more is there to rebuild? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiral Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 I've always been opposed to trading away our draft picks. I felt that is a MAJOR reason why we went through such a drastic roster turnover. We had almost no real talent other than JT that we drafted ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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