CBAreject Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 The Bobcats have lost the last two games on desperation 3 ptrs at the buzzer. They're going to have to stop getting unlucky if we hope to have the worst record. We are the worst team based on point differential by a good margin (9 vs. 6 by Charlotte and 7 by New Orleans). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonKnight Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 those were Pryz's numbers from last night's game. BK's only mistake is putting up good numbers since winning the starting 5 spot in Portland. It still upsets me that Collier was signed over this guy. It would take all of our centers a week's worth of games to combile those numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traceman Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Pryzbilla - 28.6 mpg 66% fg 7.9 ppg 10.7 rbg 2.9 bpg Dalembert - 27.0 ppg 59% fg 8.6 ppg 7.7 rbg 1.9 bpg I'm not saying that Pryzbilla is better than Dalembert (or vice versa) but a lot of people on this board seem to think that Dalembert is the answer for us at Center next year. I remain unconvinced that we should spend big FA dollars on Dalembert (or trade a guy like Walker for him) when his production at this point is less than that of a guy we could (actually SHOULD) have had for $1.75M a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emeans Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 I am like you Trace. I am not convinced Dalambert is the answer to our problems at Center. He is an average Center. I still scratch my head on BK signing Collier instead of Pryz. Now Pryz is not a savior either and is average also, but like you said we should of had him at 1.7 Mil/year. We are talking about signing Dalambert for BIG bucks. I am not sold yet!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiral Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Pryz has heart which is more than I can say for Collier. He wasn't afraid to bang or stick his nose in their on rebounds either. He does all the dirty inside work that no one on our team will do. I would much rather have a hard nosed defensive center than a poor man's Michael Doleac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Wretch Posted February 15, 2005 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 For a minute there, I was beginning to think EVERYBODY shared the same view on Dalembert and that maybe I was just an idiot who couldn't clearly see what he was all about. Not that Sammy D doesn't have potential or that he wouldn't be a nice addition, but some of the trades that I've seen proposed for this guy are risky to say the least. He seems like a decent prospect. More importantly though, he seems like yet another big guy that plays well enough to spark the interest of those who are continually trying to find that 7 foot diamond in the rough. Which means come time to sign or resign the kid, he'll get ridiculous offers. Should we have been so fortuneate, we also had people willing to take on garbage contracts on top of that... Yeesh. In my book, guys like that you don't go all out to acquire. You either make an even-steven trade or draft your own project and roll from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_quest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Another reason to draft Bogut. Even potentially good bigs command a high premium, think Adonal Foyle. Point guards have to be outstanding to get a big contract, usually. I'd rather have a big signed to a rookie contract, and go out and acquire a point guard. Signing a big like Dalembert kills you if he doesn't pan out. NO, I don't want Dalembert taking up a fifth of our cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emeans Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Not me...I was never sold on Dalambert. That is Diesels pet toy for all kind of fantasy trades. Like a poster said he is good enough to spark a lot of interest, but also not good enough to be a sure success. He has potential but I am not sure he is our answer at Center. We need to draft Bogut and try to get someone out of FA to pair with him at Center. Keep Drobs and Ekezie and call it a day. That would be very good quality depth at the Center postion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBatPCSOM Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Przybilla had an option on his contract. The only way Atlanta could have kept him was to pick up that option, which would have paid him around $3.5 million. I believe that was the only hang up in keeping him. If they could have signed him to a deal similar to what they gave Jason Collier, I believe they would have. When they declined his option, they basically renounced his free agent rights and couldn't negotiate with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 i think that Dalem had some good games last year and was showing some potential. With him being young and being a good athletic size and showing potential, he was one to want to consider for aquiring. As we all know, once a name has surfaced that sounds reasonable, it explodes and you hear it in every trade rumor. Now that he has shown much more development, and the realization of other centers becoming free agents and with Bogut, the talk has died down. I was more of a Kwame Brown trade prospect person with considerations for Curry. But now that I have been exposed to Bogut, who honestly I'd known nothing about until last couple months, and I see what he's doing, I'm all about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traceman Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Not picking up the option on a player's rookie contract does not preclude you from resigning them as long as you have the caproom to do so (we did). If you are over the cap, you can use one of the available exceptions (such as the MCE) to resign the player. When we didn't pick up DJ's option, we still could have resigned him, we just didn't have the right to match any other offers he might have received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted February 15, 2005 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 What I said about Dalembert is that IF YOU THINK HE IS WORTHY of it, you should trade Walker for him and some bad contracts.. What I suggested here a long time ago was waiting to the offseason to acquire Pryz....and have a rotation of Pryz/Drob/Okiezie at C... I still believe that will work... There are others who believe that we can trade Walk for Dalembert/Big dog. Of that I said NO way Philly does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonKnight Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 I think you are right. We could have resigned Pryz for less then his option year and IMO we would have been the frontrunner for his services b/c he could have come in and started at the beginning of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iman Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 Yup, I'm not sure Dalembert is much better than Ekezie who is looking much better lately. I hope Bogut lasts to our pick, I think we'll take him. Bogut really is more of a 4/5 kinda player and could use other bigmen on the floor with him at times. Chandler, Kwame, or Swift in that order of preference with Bogut would be a nice starting 4/5. With our youngsters we'd just be a point guard and a few years of maturity away from being contenders. I bet we can get a lottery type pick for Harrington and get that point with that pick, I'm leaning towards Deron Williams or Jack at this point assuming Paul and Felton are already gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunt91 Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 It hurts to see a player we could have had doing well on another team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBAreject Posted February 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 Yeah, those are gaudy numbers, no doubt. The question with Pryz, I think was his propensity to be injured. It's usually a good bet that a player who has been injured repeatedly will continue to be injured. Tyson Chandler is a good example. Danny Fortson the same. Every now and then, a player surprises you and strings together a couple of healthy seasons. Big Z is a good example of that. Maybe Pryz will keep it up. If he does, Portland has the biggest bargain on a center in the league. Imagine--the GSW could have signe Pryz for less than half of what they're paying Foyle. He's 3 times the player, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 what about- C-Bogut Pf-Chandler or Kwame(maybe he's suited more for this position) Sf-JSmith Sg-JChill Pg-Jack or Williams (from pick for Harrington or Walker).. just an option..gives us flexibility with our Pf/C's being able to switch positions.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iman Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 That's exactly the lineup I'd like to see. We'd still have tons of capspace too. Maybe we'd buy us another good starter such as a point or a few backups. You figure JSmoove and Drobnjak could slide to the PF but actually with all the capspace why not pick up another PF/C. I guess we could resign Walker since we'd need the offense but I'd rather spend the money on an outside specialized SG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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