Nicholasp27 Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 All these moves are definitely feasible... chill is our sf of the future (think matrix) smoove is gonna be a pf (think kemp/amare w/better blocking) so harrington/walker are somewhat expendable, and this also frees up the sg position for a shooter... deadline trade: walker for a first and expiring deadline or draftday trade: harrington for a first draftday trade: one of the traded-for firsts and our 2nd to move up a few slots if needed, or both firsts to really move up to get the pg that stands out for us if needed... draft pick 1: bogut why: athletic, offensive, efficient, can pass out of triple-teams...walking double double, can block as well to help smoove keep teams honest... draft pick 2: pg we need (i'll use Felton for the rest of this post, but who knows who it'll be) draft pick 3: best available our team: felton/ivey/diaw ?/delk chill/danta smoove/? bogut/drobs/? July: release collier, keep drobs and delk why: have outside shots...both excellent for 3rd stringers...both decent trade bait sign Joe Johnson or Larry Hughes why: johnson is the outside shooter we need...hughes is also useful and is better at defense...johnson's 3s make him more desirable than hughes tho sign casey jacobsen why: great backup 2...can drain the long shots...bonus: played with chill at stanford sign swift why: backup pf/c for 30mpg...athletic, blocks shots, rebounds, scores, etc...swift/smoove/bogut make a great blocking/rebounding threesome sign ekezie why: stays on IL until the inevitable injury...so we don't miss a beat when we get injuries sign KA and Willis why: mentor the youth while on the IL as backup for injuries That about uses up our capspace, but we'll gain delk's and drobs plus another 3+mil next summer, so will still have some space to fill holes next year... felton/ivey johnson/jacobsen/delk chill/donta/3rd pick smoove/swift/bogut bogut/swift/drobs diaw backs up 1/2/3 as needed for 15mpg Pieces for the future: felton: the pg we draft we are hoping will be able to be our starter for many years ivey: great for a backup pg...runs offense and brings defense...will only improve johnson: great sg; great shooter jacobsen: perfect 3pt spark off the bench chill: our own marion donta: very promising as a backup diaw: do-it-all role player...great for when we contend smoove: our future all-star swift: blocks, rebounds, scores, soars...great for backup pf/c bogut: we are hoping he'll be able to be our starter for many years that's a lot of great pieces and then we still will have 10mil cap space and the mle next summer to fill in holes...as well as more drafts and trades... swift/donta/jacobsen/ivey all have the potential to be better than the opposing teams' 2nd stringers...which will translate to many more Ws in a few years... The team: athletic defensive near top in blocks near top in rebounds near top in steals i can see us having 7-8 players averaging 10ppg in 3 years...like the kings did, but we'll have FAR better defense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_quest Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 I can picture Chill being a SF, but it's hard for me to picture JSmoove being a fulltime PF. Smoove doesn't seem to have the bulk or height to be a PF. He is not Shawn Kemp in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted February 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 well bk said he thinks he may be a pf and did u see smoove on Saturday? he's bulked up and looks like a pf...he is 6'9 after all and as big as amare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATL_BALLER Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 I definitely covet Joe Johnson, and think that both AW and Al should be moved in the scenarios you noted- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 Smith measured 6'7" with out shoes at the combine. Even if he has grown since, I just don't see how he is big enough to handle Duncan, Garnett, O'Neil, etc. Stoudamire has at least an inch or two on him and alot more muscle mass. Maybe in a couple years it can work but right now I think the Hawks should do everything in their power to turn Josh smith and Josh Childress into solid wing players. Both need to work on their shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRedStripes Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 This is a good plan, because its almost exactly like the plan i posted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted February 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 bk said he thinks smoove could be pf after the summer... and ben wallace is a small center, but look how that worked out... and amare is a small center but look how that is working out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted February 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 my bad...didn't see that... anyway, this was just a write-up of what i've been thinking/saying/posting the past few weeks into one coherent plan... glad i'm not the only one thinking along these lines...maybe bk is as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 Quote: bk said he thinks smoove could be pf after the summer... and ben wallace is a small center, but look how that worked out... and amare is a small center but look how that is working out... Both Amare and Ben Wallace have alot more muscle mass than Joshn Smith. Heck, I have more muscle mass then Josh Smith and I am a runner. I am not saying it cannot work it just does not seem ideal. If one of Childress or Smith can develop an outside shot then you obviate the need to bring in a high priced shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_quest Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 I'm sorry you can't turn a rookie into Craig Hodges or Ray Allen by just spending a summer working on their jumpers. A high priced shooter gets a high price for a reason, mainly that it takes more than a summer of practice to achieve their level of skill. Our rookies can improve, but if your BK you're not thinking about leaving Michael Redd unsigned because Childress is gonna work on his jumper. You make it sound too easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 It will be easier to turn Smith or Childress into respectible outside threats then it will be to sign Allen, Redd, Johnson or Hughes regardless of the cap space available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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