Premium Member Diesel Posted April 5, 2005 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 I would try to trade Al/Boston's pick for a midround/late lottery pick... Then I would take Frye (if Williams is gone). Frye/May/Smoove/Chillz/PG... Maybe sign a vet PG like Best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBatPCSOM Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 That is nowhere near value for Al Harrington. You don't trade a 25 year old player who averages 17 and 8 for a late lottery/mid first round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyman3 Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Mookie got us the #10? pick (jason terry)... do u think Al Harrington is worth more or less than MOOKIE (in terms of trade value)? or about equal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBAreject Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 So, hypothetically, Al Harrington and a 2006 #16 pick for a 2005 #16 pick? That doesn't look so great for us. Denver traded a future, protected #1 pick to get Nelson straight up. If I'm moving Harrington and a future #1, I want the #4 pick or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted April 5, 2005 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 You got a good point there. I'm just saying, if we get May, we ought to try to get Frye or a defensive C. Maybe Dally... I'm also saying, Harrington can't stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Quote: I would try to trade Al/Boston's pick for a midround/late lottery pick... You Are An Idiot jamison went for the NUMBER FIVE pick last year...but u wanna trade al AND a future first for a 15-25 pick!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted April 5, 2005 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Jamison was also an ALLSTAR this yr... What has AL sniffed?? Last game, All had 3 pts and 4 rebounds in 20 something minutes of play. He's crying injured and Our Rookies look better than him... What do yo think AL is worth? At least Jamison was coming off of a good year with the Mavs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBAreject Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Well, Al is at least worth a draft pick by himself. I think he could get a low lottery choice (8-14). If not that, I think SOMEBODY who needs a forward and is ready to compete would give us a 15-20. I just can't see trading him just to get about the same pick we have coming next season a year earlier. We have a lot of needs, and we can't just go throwing away valuable chips because we're impatient and want all of our draft picks now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted April 5, 2005 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 If Al/1st from Boston can get us Deron Williams in the lottery... I say do it. Who knows... Maybe Utah will bite. Or Charlotte... It would be nice to have the first and 3rd pick of the draft and take May/Williams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 yeah, al/boston's for a top 5 pick to get deron is fine it's al/boston's for a 20 pick that's asinine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominiqueWilkins Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 If anyone is thinking about selecting May at #1 you must be out of your mind. I like the 21 year old very much, but just because he had a great tourney, doesn't mean his stock is going to raise to #1 status to me over night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted April 5, 2005 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 You act like his stock was ever down... May was not considered because it was expected that he would stay in school... If he comes out... He's much better than Taft, Villenueva, Splitter, and even Bogut... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 u think everyone is better than bogut no matter what, u will have bogut #2 or worse u'd prolly take villa over bogut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted April 5, 2005 Moderators Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 May is still considered a 10-29 range pick according to ESPN and this is after his stock raised due to his tournament performance. He is not a candidate at #1 overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 have you EVER had knee tendinitis? It hurts like a b*tch. I cant even begin to imagine trying to practice and play on it in the NBA. Al has been very good all year, especially considering this is his first year as a starter and as the man on the team. He shouldnt even be playing right now with his knee the way that it is and I fully expect that he might only play another game or two this year until Woody sits him permanently to heal. Sorry but NONE of our rookies has outplayed Al. It took Al being injured for any of them to play at his level. Just because Childress gets 20 points a few times does not mean that he is playing at Harringtons level (although I am definitely not bashing Childress). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 I second the knee tendonitis being very painful. I had it my freshman year in college. I was a college runner, so all I had to do was run straight ahead but the tendonitis kept me from running and my coach held me out of a meet because of it. I don't understand why everyone is down on Al. The guy is a good player - not great mind you - but a good player nonetheless. He has a great attitude. Plus, he is still young and has a chance to improve. I do not believe it makes sense to put together a team of all rookies and second year players - you need someone who has been there and done that. Al, while not an old grizzled veteran, has been in the league for a number of years and has demonstrated some ability to lead the kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted April 5, 2005 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 It's nothing against Al personally... It's Bidniz... Al is a FA to be. He will want a much bigger contract than we are paying him. Honestly... Can we not get from Smoove, what we get from Al right now? Yes... Al is a better low post player. Smoove is a better defender. Plus, with talk about Al having to lose 20 lbs to stay Healthy, it signals to me that the plan is for Al to play Sf. Don't you think we already have a glut of guys who should play Sf. Chillz is out of place. Smoove can play SF (but eventually he will go to PF). Donta, Diaw, and so on and so fourth... I just think with his contract and with our rookies, we can afford to trade Al and probably get something really good. That's not a slight on him... In fact, if he is good enough to get us a Lottery pick... that's good. I just think we need to think realistically about the future and both of these rookies seem to be playing themselves into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Again, you cannot have a team with all first and second year players starting - particularly when at least one of those players is not old enough to buy a beer. Harrington remains the teams best offensive performer. Smoove, for all his athleticism, does not have a well developed offensive game. He can get some points yes, but he is not the type of guy that can create a shot for himself at this point. I still think Harrington has not maxed out his potential and the Hawks are in a good position to see if he improves over the course of next season - if so, then he deserves a big contract. He probably won't get anything close to max money even with a big year - and by big year I mean something slightly north of this year . The Hawks will still have plenty of money to spend as both Childress and Smoove will be two years away from free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohawks11 Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 may announced hes staying in school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominiqueWilkins Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Quote: You act like his stock was ever down... May was not considered because it was expected that he would stay in school... If he comes out... He's much better than Taft, Villenueva, Splitter, and even Bogut... Ok Diesel. Bogut is a better player, May has better players around him to take some of the load off. Bogut on the other hand doesn't have the help that May has, and UNC is the closest thing to a stacked college basketball team. I'll agree that May is better than Taft and Villenueva but I wont agree with you about Bogut/Splitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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