djcorley Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 There is a reported three team deal in the works with Us, Washington and Phoenix??? The only deal that makes any sense for all teams involved is this: ATL Trades AL and Chillz Wiz Trades Kwame Phoenix Trades JJ ATL Recieves a Signed JJ and a signed Kwame Wiz Recieves AL Phoenix Recieves Chillz I'm sure there will be other players involved for salary cap purposes. But, these are the the major names involved in the deal. I'd hate to see Chillz go. I really like his game and his leadership qualities. Not to mention I think he'd be great for the community of Atlanta and a great representation of a professional athlete and role model. However, I think JJ has a much higher ceiling and is a potential go to guy and def. a BK kinda guy. I think it would be a strong trade in that reguard. As far as Kwame goes, if he can't get it together back home on a team where he has no pressure and no expectations to live up too??? I don't think he'd ever get it together. My only concern is that we don't invest too much money into him up front. Maybe we could back load the contract with team option years at a higher number if he proves worthy??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpshot Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 I agree, that this proposed deal would be a win for everyone involved. I would prefer us to not trade Al for Kwame. I would rather try to sign a true center like Curry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotboyj Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 Why get rid of Chillz and AL. We could probably keep Chillz, sign Joe Johnson for the max, and trade Al for Curry. We keep chillz and add jj and curry. That is alot better than getting rid of Chillz and AL to get jj and kwame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegg66 Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 I like the trade. Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djcorley Posted July 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 Bob Rathbun said it on 790 this afternoon...I think we can get more then Kwame and JJ for Al and Chillz as well. But, IF this rumor is true that there's a three way deal being discussed between these three teams...it's the only trade that makes any sense for all teams involved Phoenix is cutting payroll so they can sign Amare to a max deal soon. Wiz want to get something for Kwame and I'm sure they'd be more then happy to get Al as a replacement. They would probably have to put someone else into the deal to make it work...Jarvis Hayes maybe? And we get one sure peace to our young puzzle in JJ and a potentially huge peace in Kwame...if he gets himself together that is. and possibly another young bench player that we could develop. I sure would like the outside shooting of Hayes on this team...not to mention he played his college ball at GA Remember...there's a reason why Ekeize and Thomas were released so soon...Something is Brewin'...I can feel it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 Quote: Bob Rathbun said it on 790 this afternoon...I think we can get more then Kwame and JJ for Al and Chillz as well. But, IF this rumor is true that there's a three way deal being discussed between these three teams...it's the only trade that makes any sense for all teams involved Phoenix is cutting payroll so they can sign Amare to a max deal soon. Wiz want to get something for Kwame and I'm sure they'd be more then happy to get Al as a replacement. They would probably have to put someone else into the deal to make it work...Jarvis Hayes maybe? And we get one sure peace to our young puzzle in JJ and a potentially huge peace in Kwame...if he gets himself together that is. and possibly another young bench player that we could develop. I sure would like the outside shooting of Hayes on this team...not to mention he played his college ball at GA Remember...there's a reason why Ekeize and Thomas were released so soon...Something is Brewin'...I can feel it. They got released because Jon Koncak has decided to come out of retirement.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 Horrible idea. We should not be messing with the three young guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezmund Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 Why do you trade a promising, young talent that makes $3M for a player you can sign straight-up? Childress is by far my favorite player on the team but does everyone just throw him in these deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 i agree. why is everyone trying to trade Childress? Why is everyone so gungho about bringing Joe Johnson in as if he's michael jordan? i mean IF Joe can play point, then fine. But people Childress has been in the league for ONE YEAR and was a top rookie. He's cheaper than some big name free agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeareess Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 Chillz hasn't impressed me anywhere near as much as he has you. I like his atheltisicm, but not his J, and I'm concerned about what position he'll develop into. Also, JJ and Kwame are both restricted, so it's not a guarantee that we could sign either of them straight up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 I don't see Childress getting traded. Billy likes him too much. I can see the Hawks dealing Al Harrington for Kwame Brown, but I believe they will simply try to sign Joe Johnson outright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djcorley Posted July 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 I don't think that's how it works with RFA Max players. With Max players if their current team isn't going to pay them the Max then what'll do is agree to a sign and trade. Kinda like what happend to K-Mart last year. That's part of the reason why they extend the qualifying offers to RFA. Teams want to protect their investment. So as to avoid a Larry Huges situation. Also, it gets the player another year and about 20 million by doing a SNT because of the "Bird Rights" rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar78 Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 Quote: There is a reported three team deal in the works with Us, Washington and Phoenix??? The only deal that makes any sense for all teams involved is this: ATL Trades AL and Chillz Wiz Trades Kwame Phoenix Trades JJ ATL Recieves a Signed JJ and a signed Kwame Wiz Recieves AL Phoenix Recieves Chillz Why is that the only trade that makes sense?? It's not even a 3 way! It's us trading Al for Kwame, and us trading Chill for JJ. Two separate trades. I'd have to believe that the 3way would be ATL: trades Al, gets JJ WIZ: trades Kwame, gets Al PHX: trades JJ, gets Kwame That's the one that would make sense, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 that's not bad at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djcorley Posted July 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 Phoenix doesn't want or need AL they would be looking for a replacement for JJ. Like I said there will be more players involved for different reasons. IMO these players: Chillz to Phoe...AL to Wiz Kwame and JJ here...makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonKnight Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 during draft night along with Smoove. This is a very strong indication of BK's faith in these two as cornerstones of the team. He is not going to trade JChill unless a very very sweet deal is offered. A deal involving Kwame "the Quitter" Brown does not qualify as a sweet deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swolehawk2 Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 If JJ has agreed to take the max from us then Phoenix has decided not to match therefore wanting to trade to get something in return....so we don't have to agree to a trade....if we agree to a trade we really don't have to let them STEAL Chillz away...we can offer Al &/or Diaw....it is basically the ball is in our court if JJ wants to leave and Phoenix does not want to pay. The notion that Chillz is involved is really silly...since I am pretty sure JJ would play the point here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted July 9, 2005 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 AL/Filler goes to Washington. Hayes/J-Chill goes to Phoenix Kwame/JJ comes to us.. But again, it's not smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeareess Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 But Phoenix is not going to declare that they won't match until about a week after he's signed to an offer sheet. So if we can come up with a fair trade, it's in our best interest to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djcorley Posted July 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 Once you sign a RFA to an offer sheet you can't do a SNT. so there would have to be communication between the two teams and understand the need to work something out. It's like this: Phoenix wouldn't want to match but would if we didn't agree to a SNT. Therby protecting their initial investment and not just letting JJ walk. If they couldn't get together on a trade then they would make us wait a week and tie the money up and the match the deal. THINK about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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